The spectacular waste of money now arriving is......
The spectacular waste of money now arriving is......
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thatone1967

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4,246 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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The first of our new tanker fleet......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13125047

Got to be one of the worst decisions we EVER made!

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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I did struggle to see the point, especially with job losses on the way.

I don't see the point of cutting back on the Army when we seem intent on making them fight a war every time the one before it finishes.

thatone1967

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4,246 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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not saying that we dont need then... but £10.5 BILLION for 14 planes???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11316250

Simpo Two

92,645 posts

294 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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It's a cunning cost saving plan. They can announce the project now for 10.5Bn, then next year, when they need some savings, scrap it...



I didn't buy a Ferrari today. Saved a fortune!

thatone1967

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4,246 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
It's a cunning cost saving plan. They can announce the project now for 10.5Bn, then next year, when they need some savings, scrap it...



I didn't buy a Ferrari today. Saved a fortune!
I am sure the co-alition would LOVE to scrap this....

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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How the f..ck can it take nine years to negotiate a contract!!!!!! Pay Stelios a months salary and he'd sort it!!!

What a complete bunch of t.ts!

D4VE 3LL

964 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Oohh a refuelling plane to refuel what jets? Harriers gone, Tornados going left right and centre. 14 Squadrn going along with 13 Squadron, Typhoons grounded and even being scrapped (the earlier ones). Massive waste of money

Eric Mc

125,601 posts

294 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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This was one of the contracts that was more expensive to break out of than cancel I think, like the aircraft carriers.


IanMorewood

4,309 posts

277 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.
At a guess its no major improvement?

doodles19

2,201 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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It says in the article its the biggest ... surely this is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-17_Globemast...

thatone1967

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4,246 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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D4VE 3LL said:
Typhoons grounded and even being scrapped (the earlier ones).
yikes

db

724 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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mrloudly said:
How the f..ck can it take nine years to negotiate a contract!!!!!! Pay Stelios a months salary and he'd sort it!!!

What a complete bunch of t.ts!
the aircraft weren't initially to be equipped to fly in a war zone, mods needed.
initially, crew were to be civilian. they had a clause that excused them from flying in a war zone rolleyes
the wing was from another airbus (don't remember which type) designed to take 4 smaller engines. it now has 2 larger engines and 2 pods for hoses. much testing and proving involved

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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On the bright side at least the future is looking marginally more sensible with UAV development, investigation into austere ground attack capability for lower threat environments and buying some c-17s off-the-shelf as it were.

Just dont mention the F-35. or watchkeeper. or typhoon tranche 3. Or a330 mrt. Or the a400m.....

umm smile

Firmly tongue in cheek but theres definately room for improvement in the procurement processes

Taita

7,994 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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In these contracts they seem to forget who is the customer!

davidjpowell

18,689 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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mrloudly said:
How the f..ck can it take nine years to negotiate a contract!!!!!! Pay Stelios a months salary and he'd sort it!!!

What a complete bunch of t.ts!
Just let a procurement department at it...

KieronGSi

1,114 posts

233 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.
It's replacing the VC10 as well don't forget.

Eric Mc

125,601 posts

294 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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KieronGSi said:
Eric Mc said:
Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.
It's replacing the VC10 as well don't forget.
Not the point I was making. The Tristar is quite a large aeroplane so the Airbus A330 isn't that much larger in comparison. Why were they comparing it to historic antiques like the Lancaster and Shackleton?

fergywales

1,624 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
KieronGSi said:
Eric Mc said:
Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.
It's replacing the VC10 as well don't forget.
Not the point I was making. The Tristar is quite a large aeroplane so the Airbus A330 isn't that much larger in comparison. Why were they comparing it to historic antiques like the Lancaster and Shackleton?
Probably due to the unique way in which the BBC is funded, it only allows them to reference and draw comparisons with machinery that can be understood by anyone aged 18-80, with kindergarten artistic mock-ups.

thatone1967

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4,246 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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fergywales said:
Eric Mc said:
KieronGSi said:
Eric Mc said:
Why didn't they compare it with a Tristar, the aircraft it is directly replacing.
It's replacing the VC10 as well don't forget.
Not the point I was making. The Tristar is quite a large aeroplane so the Airbus A330 isn't that much larger in comparison. Why were they comparing it to historic antiques like the Lancaster and Shackleton?
Probably due to the unique way in which the BBC is funded, it only allows them to reference and draw comparisons with machinery that can be understood by anyone aged 18-80, with kindergarten artistic mock-ups.
Or maybe the people that wrote the article would not know a Spitfire from a Concorde!