New series.... takes the biscuit !!
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Last week at Oulton park some of the final 16 FW racers were testing in their race prepared RX8's.
Guess what? A final 50 eliminee was also testing in her road standard RX8.
How could this eliminee pass one of the "best 16" fair & square on track?? She did... poses the question in my book ??
I do not need any further evidence!
As for Glew saying the lap times have nothing between them...... No.. there is 4 seconds between some of them.
I notice the forum, for which I paid £35 to be a member of has been closed. Seems they are worried what other home truths will come out to upset the applecart.
Guess what? A final 50 eliminee was also testing in her road standard RX8.
How could this eliminee pass one of the "best 16" fair & square on track?? She did... poses the question in my book ??
I do not need any further evidence!
As for Glew saying the lap times have nothing between them...... No.. there is 4 seconds between some of them.
I notice the forum, for which I paid £35 to be a member of has been closed. Seems they are worried what other home truths will come out to upset the applecart.
jamesc said:
Why? Everytime I type TVR it turns into an advert! Very good! How about everytime I type Mazda.. Any ideas????
Vibrant Media / IntelliTXT
tja said:
jamesc said:
Why? Everytime I type TVR it turns into an advert! Very good! How about everytime I type Mazda.. Any ideas????
Vibrant Media / IntelliTXT
Hi tja,
It is brilliant!!!
James
naughtybutnice said:
Last week at Oulton park some of the final 16 FW racers were testing in their race prepared RX8's.
Guess what? A final 50 eliminee was also testing in her road standard RX8.
How could this eliminee pass one of the "best 16" fair & square on track?? She did... poses the question in my book ??
I do not need any further evidence!
As for Glew saying the lap times have nothing between them...... No.. there is 4 seconds between some of them.
I notice the forum, for which I paid £35 to be a member of has been closed. Seems they are worried what other home truths will come out to upset the applecart.
Paid £35 to join a forum! Pistonheads is FREE! Dave supplies tea and biscuits at TVR and GT races. There is a terrific range of "Pistonheads" gear and lots of other things besides!
regards
James
naughtybutnice said:
Last week at Oulton park some of the final 16 FW racers were testing in their race prepared RX8's.
Guess what? A final 50 eliminee was also testing in her road standard RX8.
How could this eliminee pass one of the "best 16" fair & square on track?? She did... poses the question in my book ??
I do not need any further evidence!
As for Glew saying the lap times have nothing between them...... No.. there is 4 seconds between some of them.
I notice the forum, for which I paid £35 to be a member of has been closed. Seems they are worried what other home truths will come out to upset the applecart.
to be fair if you put two people in a car that neither of them have driven before, give them minimal tuition and training and they get within four seconds of each other at a circuit as technical as Outlon Park, I say thats not too bad.
as for the eliminee overtaking a competitor, perhaps someone had a point to prove and the red mist settled?, was the competitor driving to minimise risk damage to the car and not do anything stupid prior to the start of the season? tyres? fuel load?...... too many factors to argue this one i'm afraid!
Hi Darren,
I think it might be an idea to end this thread as well. Just read Motorsport News and Autosport; spoke to the Club editor of Motorsport News and asked him why they were printing wild stories when there is nothing about the Tuscans!
Hopefully this sorry state of affairs will soon come to an end and women can take part in real racing.
I think it might be an idea to end this thread as well. Just read Motorsport News and Autosport; spoke to the Club editor of Motorsport News and asked him why they were printing wild stories when there is nothing about the Tuscans!
Hopefully this sorry state of affairs will soon come to an end and women can take part in real racing.
;} Oh Please Pablo.. Darren??
I am a competative female [competative is in my blood] race or track day I must give 100%. Any person with a competative spirit would!
My experience of a track day is to improve my driving, even if I was taking it "easy" "team instuctions!" I would do my utmost to prevent anyone passing me. {especially a reject} come on!!??
NO OFFENCE PAM JUST PRAISE WHERE ITS DUE!!
I wonder who you are speaking for Darren? Must be one of those chosen few!!
I am a competative female [competative is in my blood] race or track day I must give 100%. Any person with a competative spirit would!
My experience of a track day is to improve my driving, even if I was taking it "easy" "team instuctions!" I would do my utmost to prevent anyone passing me. {especially a reject} come on!!??
NO OFFENCE PAM JUST PRAISE WHERE ITS DUE!!
I wonder who you are speaking for Darren? Must be one of those chosen few!!
naughtybutnice said:
;} Oh Please Pablo.. Darren??
I am a competative female [competative is in my blood] race or track day I must give 100%. Any person with a competative spirit would!
My experience of a track day is to improve my driving, even if I was taking it "easy" "team instuctions!" I would do my utmost to prevent anyone passing me. {especially a reject} come on!!??
NO OFFENCE PAM JUST PRAISE WHERE ITS DUE!!
I wonder who you are speaking for Darren? Must be one of those chosen few!!
And why the hell are you asking me?
sorry Pablo Darren..
Missed the first part of your message..must have been the red mist you talk about!
This 4 second lap time difference.....
I am now talking racers!!
16 girls chosen from over 8000 applicants on driving ability. Most of the "chosen few" have come from racing relatives and or lots of cash. Most of the girls could have paid for lots of tuition, although, given some of their backgrounds could have been tutored for free. Come on, we are talking about the best 16 of over 8000! 4 seconds is OTT, 2-21/2 seconds perhaps. They are driving identically prepared cars after all. In my book that 4 second difference proves that either the other 7984 were poor standard drivers or we have been had on & the selection process was not really based on driver ability....more the profile of a person who can attract media attention to FW & bring sponsors for one reason or another!
I think this further endorses the reality of a genius money making scheme that may have worked[if everyone was as convinced of its integrity as you are]
I am not being rude, just stating my honest opinion based on factual information.
If you or your "competator" friend prove me & many others wrong, I will be first to come & apologise to you! Honest!
hope you have a good weekend. Regards Naughty!
Missed the first part of your message..must have been the red mist you talk about!
This 4 second lap time difference.....
I am now talking racers!!
16 girls chosen from over 8000 applicants on driving ability. Most of the "chosen few" have come from racing relatives and or lots of cash. Most of the girls could have paid for lots of tuition, although, given some of their backgrounds could have been tutored for free. Come on, we are talking about the best 16 of over 8000! 4 seconds is OTT, 2-21/2 seconds perhaps. They are driving identically prepared cars after all. In my book that 4 second difference proves that either the other 7984 were poor standard drivers or we have been had on & the selection process was not really based on driver ability....more the profile of a person who can attract media attention to FW & bring sponsors for one reason or another!
I think this further endorses the reality of a genius money making scheme that may have worked[if everyone was as convinced of its integrity as you are]
I am not being rude, just stating my honest opinion based on factual information.
If you or your "competator" friend prove me & many others wrong, I will be first to come & apologise to you! Honest!
hope you have a good weekend. Regards Naughty!
Because I'm the Darren mentioned earlier by JamesC and then used by yourself in your earlier post when you asked
Since my name was mentioned by JamesC about closing this thread.
naughtybutnice said:
;} Oh Please Pablo.. Darren??
I wonder who you are speaking for Darren? Must be one of those chosen few!!
Since my name was mentioned by JamesC about closing this thread.
naughty but nice,
some points.
a quick look in my profile would see that
i am not called darren.
its "competitive" not "competative"
i still maintain that four seconds difference between sixteen drivers is not bad. lets not forget it has already been stated that the competitors got minimal training and tracktime and as I said, Oulton Park is a challenging circuit.
Are you competing in Formula Woman? if so I imagine from the tone of your posts that you are somewhere near the top of those timesheets? Good for you. If you are an experienced trackday driver though, you must acknowledge the fact that you have a slight advantage over some of the other competitors!.
Anyway, I have lost all interest in Formula Woman before the championship has even started. Good luck to all competing.
FIN
some points.
a quick look in my profile would see that
i am not called darren.
its "competitive" not "competative"
i still maintain that four seconds difference between sixteen drivers is not bad. lets not forget it has already been stated that the competitors got minimal training and tracktime and as I said, Oulton Park is a challenging circuit.
Are you competing in Formula Woman? if so I imagine from the tone of your posts that you are somewhere near the top of those timesheets? Good for you. If you are an experienced trackday driver though, you must acknowledge the fact that you have a slight advantage over some of the other competitors!.
Anyway, I have lost all interest in Formula Woman before the championship has even started. Good luck to all competing.
FIN
simon, i did but you neglected to include your address!!! sorry, did you want the actual newspaper article or an "electronic" copy of the article.
its here:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,1209934,00.html
cheers
p
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 17th May 11:04
its here:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,1209934,00.html
cheers
p
>> Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 17th May 11:04
jamesc said:
Paid £35 to join a forum! Pistonheads is FREE! Dave supplies tea and biscuits at TVR and GT races. There is a terrific range of "Pistonheads" gear and lots of other things besides!
James
Oh an ineresting thread but as always my eyes are drawn straight away to the mention of biscuits Will there be a ready supply at Oulton and Silverstone GT rounds
As for FW, I still remain in the camp that firmly worries it could do more harm than good if it ends up being peddled out as little more than another reality tv show.
naughtybutnice said:
16 girls chosen from over 8000 applicants on driving ability. Most of the "chosen few" have come from racing relatives and or lots of cash. Most of the girls could have paid for lots of tuition, although, given some of their backgrounds could have been tutored for free.
I wouldn't say "most" of the girls have come from racing backgrounds, that is wrong. A couple have "connections" but that's about it.
naughtybutnice said:
....either the other 7984 were poor standard drivers or we have been had on & the selection process was not really based on driver ability....more the profile of a person who can attract media attention to FW & bring sponsors for one reason or another!
Got it in one.........
naughtybutnice said:
I think this further endorses the reality of a genius money making scheme that may have worked [if everyone was as convinced of its integrity as you are]
Indeed - Philip Glew's racing future is secured if Formula Woman keep raking the money in like they are currently, from gullible girls who just want to race cars. It's sad but true, and many girls will be left feeling very angry about this whole "competition", as the Official Formula Woman forum is starting to show.
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