Freeware Firewall

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marlboro

Original Poster:

637 posts

277 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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For those wishing to protect their PC's with a local Firewall this maybe useful.
http://download.com.com/3000-2092-6313778.html?tag=lst-0-1

or for those with less net experience try, also freeware:

www.zonealarm.com/

Worried about spyware, try this:

www.lsfileserv.com/aaw.html









Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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ZoneAlarm's generally reckoned to be very good, and used to win out in group tests run by security types who "know".

It'll stop inbound stuff, as well as outbound stuff you don't explicity authorise, which tends to stomp on spyware quite effectively...

JohnLow

1,763 posts

271 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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Uuhhh ... I'm a civil engineer: at home with concrete and steel ... (and water, bacteria, ultra violet ...)

What does all this mean? Firewalls I've heard of ...

Yours in ignorance but still interested

John.

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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In the virtual world, a firewall is a piece of software or a network component to protect machines and networks from scroats on the internet.

In the corporate sense, you stick a firewall between the corporate network and the internet. In the home user sense, you stick a bit of software on your PC to stop attacks coming up your phone/ADSL/ISDN/cable line.

Personal firewalls (on home machines) also have the handy side effect of blocking spyware: software that purports to do something useful for you, but that has a nasty habit of "phoning home" to its maker whenever you are connected to the internet.

The information that spyware sends home varies... it could just be usage stats for the software itself, or files from your hard disc, your web browsing history, and so on.

Deadly Dog

281 posts

273 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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I agree. Zone Alarm is an excellent piece of freeware and I'd recommend it to anyone using their home PC for browsing. It's amazing what gets blocked and it has already thwarted two attempts to ping and hack my personal machine. Like most security systems it is "intruder resistant" rather than "intruder proof" but it should see off all but the very determined unwelcome guest.

smeagol

1,947 posts

290 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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I highly recommend Tiny Personal Firewall on
www.tinysoftware.com/home/tiny?pg=tpf_summary&la=EN&va=aa

This one also allows you to change access to individual programs (which I like a LOT). ie it allows games software full access through that exe but none through any other program. So whilst playing UR tournament online my firewall is still active and I can access any IP through that program.

LOL I've just realised that the original link is for this program

>> Edited by smeagol on Monday 6th May 21:15

PetrolTed

34,443 posts

309 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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I had a look at that one but the configuration seemed very complex.

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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Smagol - Zonealarm does the same at the Tiny one, but AFAIK, has been around longer.

Bodo

12,405 posts

272 months

Monday 6th May 2002
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I experienced this one very efficient and easy to adjust:


www.suse.de/en/products/suse_linux/i386/packages_professional/SuSEfirewall2.html

smeagol

1,947 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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PetrolTed, the help file is a bit of a read but it is simple to use. You simply set it to notify you at the start. Use the programs you want to connect outside and create a rule. Then you can happily turn notification off and it will bounce any "other request". Setting a new program you turn on notification and the program notifies you and again generate the rule. Dead easy.

I've not used zonealarm so cannot comment. I wasn't trying to put it down at all, in fact I've heard tha it is also excellent. When I first looked at firewalls I believe the Tiny one was the only one that allowed you to have different rules for different programs eg set Media player to receive but not send. The others I looked into allowed you to set permissions on IP addresses only. Which is a problem with dynamic IPs on broadband, as the user you allow to communicate could change without you knowing.

As I say I don't know/never used Zonealarm so cannot comment on it. One comment though is that if you are using broadband definately get a firewall. I was surprised how often I was "contacted". Very good for peace of mind.

Terminator

2,421 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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I find this site to be extremely useful for testing your PC's security

www.grc.com

superflid

2,254 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Nice one Terminator. Mine came out as ultra-secure, using Zone Alarm, so top marks for them!

MEMSDesign

1,100 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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This is what I get:

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Attempting connection to your computer. . .
Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by anyone, anywhere, on the Internet!


Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.


Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.

Don't ask me what all that means, but it sounds good .

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Beware... www.grc.com is run by a bit of a crackpot - ShieldsUP does a basic job of checking for some of the more obvious security issues you may have, but, bluntly, Steve Gibson has *no* standing within the internet security community, being all mouth and no trousers.

He made the mistake of setting himself up as an expert in many security matters and has been roundly debunked by many people who really are experts. If you stick your head up above the parapet, expect to get shot at.

Techie aside, for those that are, er, techies: he predicted the downfall of the Internet, via DDOS attacks, with the release of Windows XP because it delivered the ability to spoof packets (i.e. raw IP sockets, IIRC) to home users, whose PCs would obviously instantly fall victim to DDOS zombie code.

Has it all fallen over yet? No? Didn't think so either.

Terminator

2,421 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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True Marshy, although I got a couple of guys I know in CA to check that the stuff on his site was harmless. And it appears to be, otherwise I wouldn't have linked to his site from here.

Gibson may be a crackpot, but then I've not met any computer geek from California who isn't

Marshy

2,748 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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True, the software isn't half bad, although some of this claims are somewhat out there and laden with hyperbole. And he writes *everything* in assembler, he claims. Any software engineers here like he sound of that? :-)

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Marshy.. I typed up practically the identical post to yours then decided that this was not the place for muck-raking and repeating things I'd read on the Register .... nevermind

Gibson is errm... a bit eccentric.. and he's a scaremongerer for the purposes of whipping up demand for his products.. all IMO of course.

JohnLow

1,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Marshy: thanks for the explanation.
Spyware - I don't like the sound of that.

John.

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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FYI I mentioned AudioGalaxy.com recently - it's basically the new napster. Well, their client software is spyware - the satellite software which allows you to do peer to peer transfers etc.

When it's not being used, it's posting stuff back to GATOR.COM using something called "TRICKLER". It transmits encoded data so I'm not sure what it is sending, but anything at all is objectionable and I've shut it down on my firewall...

I'd never have known if I wasn't running a packet sniffer to try and figure out what it needed to work properly with my firewall. Not impressed

Neither is Mrs Carzee who was looking forward to downloading tunes all day..

For more info, goto www.deja.com and search on GATOR TRICKLE AUDIOGALAXY

>> Edited by CarZee on Tuesday 7th May 14:07

SamN01

874 posts

274 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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I downloaded ZoneAlam at 12pm today and it has already stoped three NetBios whatevers trying to access my ports.
Does that mean someone is trying to hack my computer ??
Whatever it is I will sleep better knowing I have that on my PC now.

Thanks very much !!!