The start of the end of "no win, no fee" - or is it...
The start of the end of "no win, no fee" - or is it...
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Carrot

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7,294 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Parrot of Doom

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264 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Only weeks after my father died of cancer my mother received a letter from a solicitor representing some bloke up the road, who claimed to have fallen 2.5 years ago while walking on the track at the back of mum's house. Fortunately the track is unadopted land and my mother isn't responsible for it, so I doubt we'll hear any more.

The bloke claiming did so shortly after a death notice appeared in the paper. I hope the proposed legislation makes it harder for people like that to do what they do.

Carrot

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7,294 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Parrot of Doom said:
Only weeks after my father died of cancer my mother received a letter from a solicitor representing some bloke up the road, who claimed to have fallen 2.5 years ago while walking on the track at the back of mum's house. Fortunately the track is unadopted land and my mother isn't responsible for it, so I doubt we'll hear any more.

The bloke claiming did so shortly after a death notice appeared in the paper. I hope the proposed legislation makes it harder for people like that to do what they do.
What an absolute fking ish disgrace!! I really get angry over this st. This ridiculous sense of 'entitlement' really needs to end. And people really need to start looking where they are going mad

wolves_wanderer

12,957 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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One can only hope.

Only last week I had to give a statement to an insurance company loss adjuster who was defending a claim against me after I escorted an abusive and violent "customer" from the supermarket I was working in, he is apparently suffering from "nerve damage" and was so "scared and upset" he waited 6 weeks before contacting the police, thus ensuring there was no CCTV footage to back up my story. Fortuntely I had 4 independant witnesses (staff and customers) to verify my side and the police took no action.

Or there was the woman who I watched look around to check the coast was clear before squeezing an orange on the floor and taking a tactical tumble on the resultant juice.

I wonder how many whiplash claims they and their extended families have between them?

Elroy Blue

8,845 posts

222 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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I had one claiming against me. The Solicitors claimed I had cuased his client to suffer shock and whiplash due to my failing to adjust my path and speed while driving a motor vehicle. He conviniently forget to mention that I was pursuing him after he made off from a burglary and he crashed. Filed in the round cabinet under the desk.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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If it brings an end to everyone suing everyone else I might even like the blue ties

arfur sleep

1,166 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Utterly despicable that someone would surf the papers looking for "victims" to make a claim against.

At work we only have 18 months to go until we're officially "all clear" after someone injured themselves 18 months ago. The injury was their fault (they were moving something too heavy and in a manner contrary to their recent manual handling training), our insurance company believes it was the individual's fault having assessed the evidence but still the file is open and pending....

I only hope we don't have to make him redundant in the meantime as I'm pretty sure that would spur a claim which we'd then have to spend time and money defending.


Digga

48,425 posts

313 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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arfur sleep said:
Utterly despicable that someone would surf the papers looking for "victims" to make a claim against.

At work we only have 18 months to go until we're officially "all clear" after someone injured themselves 18 months ago. The injury was their fault (they were moving something too heavy and in a manner contrary to their recent manual handling training), our insurance company believes it was the individual's fault having assessed the evidence but still the file is open and pending....

I only hope we don't have to make him redundant in the meantime as I'm pretty sure that would spur a claim which we'd then have to spend time and money defending.
And you realise that in instances like yours, the ambulance chasers more often than not work at the behest of the unions? Your man may well have taken some frinedly advice and then been encouraged or coerced into a claim, sometimes without even realising exactly what is happening. rolleyes

Carrot

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232 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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arfur sleep said:
Utterly despicable that someone would surf the papers looking for "victims" to make a claim against.

At work we only have 18 months to go until we're officially "all clear" after someone injured themselves 18 months ago. The injury was their fault (they were moving something too heavy and in a manner contrary to their recent manual handling training), our insurance company believes it was the individual's fault having assessed the evidence but still the file is open and pending....

I only hope we don't have to make him redundant in the meantime as I'm pretty sure that would spur a claim which we'd then have to spend time and money defending.
I find this kind of example amazing.

When I was a field engineer, we were forced to go on a manual handling course, which (to me anyway) stated the utter blinding obvious about lifting things and wasted a day. However, even if I was a total fkwit, I certainly could not complain that I didn't know how to lift things safely, so I understand why they must do these things, so that the mentally deficient can understand how to do simple tasks without injuring themselves.

Even after this course, we also had several employees trying to claim for back injuries, "stress" and all sorts from having to lift laser printers and boxes.

One even claimed that they had permanently damaged their knees and tried to sue, turned out that it was from a previous rugby injury that they had operated on a year ago, and luckily the moron had put the full details in to claim full sick pay while he was off rolleyes - so the company had all the evidence it needed biggrin

Gun

13,432 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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The sooner these parasites are dealt with the better. I had a non fault accident 18 months ago, no injuries but my car was damaged by the woman who crashes into it yet I keep getting emails and phone calls saying "I may be entitled to as much as £5000 for any injuries I may have suffered".

MadMullah

5,299 posts

223 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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10 years too late IMO

they should've clamped down on this cottage industry as soon as it sprang up.

Theres one pending against my wife - and she didnt even hit her!

We've got witnesses and missed out on the claims investigator yesterday so i told her to call him back. hopefully they'll be more challenging and put this claimant on her ass.

Carrot

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232 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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MadMullah said:
10 years too late IMO

they should've clamped down on this cottage industry as soon as it sprang up.

Theres one pending against my wife - and she didnt even hit her!

We've got witnesses and missed out on the claims investigator yesterday so i told her to call him back. hopefully they'll be more challenging and put this claimant on her ass.
Bet it won't be levied on pending claims though... or will it? hmmm.

MadMullah

5,299 posts

223 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Carrot said:
Bet it won't be levied on pending claims though... or will it? hmmm.
i doubt it which is the shame.


DJC

23,563 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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wolves_wanderer said:
One can only hope.

Only last week I had to give a statement to an insurance company loss adjuster who was defending a claim against me after I escorted an abusive and violent "customer" from the supermarket I was working in, he is apparently suffering from "nerve damage" and was so "scared and upset" he waited 6 weeks before contacting the police, thus ensuring there was no CCTV footage to back up my story. Fortuntely I had 4 independant witnesses (staff and customers) to verify my side and the police took no action.

Or there was the woman who I watched look around to check the coast was clear before squeezing an orange on the floor and taking a tactical tumble on the resultant juice.

I wonder how many whiplash claims they and their extended families have between them?
Doesnt there have to be evidence on their side to support their claims aswell as evidence for you to use to defend yourself?

Kwai Chang Caine

6,703 posts

216 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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DJC said:
Doesnt there have to be evidence on their side to support their claims aswell as evidence for you to use to defend yourself?
It wouldn't surprise me if often the line taken is "chraper to settle than fight and lose". sadly.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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God I hope so. My dad nearly got stuck with one of these about 4 years back.

Driving home from work, a women on her phone over the white line, hit the side of him an carried on, he tunred around and had to catch up with her, she admited fault and gave him her details. He gave these to his insurance company. A few days later he gets a call from his insurance co, who have said she is claiming it was his fault and they wanted £15K for the damage, personal loss, and injuries (whip cash), whats more they were going to pay it, he had to argue with them. It ended up in court with her crying all the way through, my dad giving his account of the events, and a witness who said she saw the accident and saw my dad turn around and go back the way he came to catch up with the other car. Checky buggers even tried to claim my dad "may" have been out late the night before drinking. It went against her and she had to pay out for all his costs, as they were leaving the court she had a go at my dad saying she really needed the money and it wouldnt have made any differance to his life if he had "just gone a long with it"

Carrot

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Tuesday 29th March 2011
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KrazyIvan said:
d "just gone a long with it"
I think above all it is not the compensation claim system I have a problem with, it is the ridiculous sense of entitlement that seems to be in this country at the moment, as per the bint in your dads story example.

Hateful people. I bet she still really believed that she was 'entitled' to it even after losing the case mad

Oakey

27,984 posts

246 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Good excuse to tell the story about the woman who ran out in front of my girlfriends car resulting in a broken leg. At the time of the accident she apologised repeatedly to my girlfriend for running out without even looking, admitted it was her fault and told the witnesses, paramedics and attending police officer it was her fault and she'd just ran out in front of the car.

A year later my girlfriend receives a letter from an ambulance chaser accusing her of hitting 'their client' with her vehicle whilst 'their client' was 'attempting to cross the road'.

They were promptly told to fk off.

A year after that, they try again.

The worse part is that Swiftcover, who was her insurer around that time, have now said they will most likely make a pay out to her because 'it's unusual for a judge to not award a pedestrian hit by a vehicle' (because of course, all pedestrians are fking infallible) and it'd be cheaper than persuing it (for them maybe, not for their customers come renewal).

wolves_wanderer

12,957 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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I Love Lamp said:
wolves_wanderer said:
Or there was the woman who I watched look around to check the coast was clear before squeezing an orange on the floor and taking a tactical tumble on the resultant juice.

I wonder how many whiplash claims they and their extended families have between them?
Do/Did you work for one of the larger supermarkets?

From a conversation I had with a GSM, my understanding is that as long as you can prove that due care is/was taken, (regular inspections), you won't be held liable for the morons who slip on grapes?
I worked for Lidl. Our procedure was that we checked the area around the fruit and veg regularly and so wouldn't have been liable. Doesn't stop the parasites trying though, it was more the sheer brass neck of the glance round first that suprised me.

wolves_wanderer

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267 months

Tuesday 29th March 2011
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Kwai Chang Caine said:
DJC said:
Doesnt there have to be evidence on their side to support their claims aswell as evidence for you to use to defend yourself?
It wouldn't surprise me if often the line taken is "chraper to settle than fight and lose". sadly.
Yep, the loss adjuster said that they would normally settle anyway but the evidence in this case was so strong that they will fight.

Edit to say, I'm sure the medical evidence on his side would come from a "friendly" doctor, afterall I would have thought that nerve damage could cause pain but leave no obvious medical symptoms.