TVR Speed 6 Engines
Discussion
Podie said:
Jigs...!
He's banned.....Can't think why.
I got to 16000 on my old Tamora, and I'm on 8000 in the new one - so far so good! "alt" has one of the very first customer Tamoras, and he uses it every day, and is on about 20000 miles with no problems. there are several Tuscans with 30000+ miles with no engine rebuilds. It's all an urban myth based on a few agents provocateurs....
Many people have an (usually emotive) opinion on this...
My take on it is that the early Tuscan Speed 6's had issues (chocolate follower syndrome) but the later engines (Tamoras) seem to be no more unreliable than TVR RV8's.. (make of that what u will)
When I was looking at upgrading the Griff to a Tuscan I found I could only afford the earlier cars, most of which had mechanical 'history'. It seems that a large number of the early sixes have now had their followers replaced but still had other engine rebuilds on the sheet. As rebuild seemed to come in at a couple of K I decided that I wouldn't take the risk...
My take on it is that the early Tuscan Speed 6's had issues (chocolate follower syndrome) but the later engines (Tamoras) seem to be no more unreliable than TVR RV8's.. (make of that what u will)
When I was looking at upgrading the Griff to a Tuscan I found I could only afford the earlier cars, most of which had mechanical 'history'. It seems that a large number of the early sixes have now had their followers replaced but still had other engine rebuilds on the sheet. As rebuild seemed to come in at a couple of K I decided that I wouldn't take the risk...
nubbin said:
Podie said:
Jigs...!
He's banned.....Can't think why.
Intolerance?
nubbin said:
I got to 16000 on my old Tamora, and I'm on 8000 in the new one - so far so good! "alt" has one of the very first customer Tamoras, and he uses it every day, and is on about 20000 miles with no problems. there are several Tuscans with 30000+ miles with no engine rebuilds. It's all an urban myth based on a few agents provocateurs....
How can it be an urban myth given the amount of people who have had problems with their SP6 engined cars? It is clear that there certainly was a problem with the SP6 engine and that perhaps there may still be cars out there susceptible to engine failure. Unfortunately the SP6 engine's reputation is tainted by the early problems and people are avoiding buying SP6 cars because of this, which is a shame as I'd love a Tuscan.
trackdemon said:
nubbin said:
I got to 16000 on my old Tamora, and I'm on 8000 in the new one - so far so good! "alt" has one of the very first customer Tamoras, and he uses it every day, and is on about 20000 miles with no problems. there are several Tuscans with 30000+ miles with no engine rebuilds. It's all an urban myth based on a few agents provocateurs....
How can it be an urban myth given the amount of people who have had problems with their SP6 engined cars? It is clear that there certainly was a problem with the SP6 engine and that perhaps there may still be cars out there susceptible to engine failure. Unfortunately the SP6 engine's reputation is tainted by the early problems and people are avoiding buying SP6 cars because of this, which is a shame as I'd love a Tuscan.
The urban myth is the unreliability - yes there are a few people who have had problems, and some who have had the same problem after a rebuild - to me, that suggests driving technique may be at fault, i.e. a lack of mechanical sympathy.
There were some engine problems, but these appear to be largely sorted, and if the Typhon is pumping out 500bhp, and the Le Mans cars are using stock speed six blocks then they can't be that bad.
The engines that have blown up, have become a Chinese whisper type rumour, that perpetuates itself. No-one has bothered to look at the reasons for the failure, apart from "finger follower" problems, and the circumstances of the driving styles of those invloved may have as much to do with it.
So go and buy your Tuscan!!
nubbin said:
trackdemon said:
nubbin said:
I got to 16000 on my old Tamora, and I'm on 8000 in the new one - so far so good! "alt" has one of the very first customer Tamoras, and he uses it every day, and is on about 20000 miles with no problems. there are several Tuscans with 30000+ miles with no engine rebuilds. It's all an urban myth based on a few agents provocateurs....
How can it be an urban myth given the amount of people who have had problems with their SP6 engined cars? It is clear that there certainly was a problem with the SP6 engine and that perhaps there may still be cars out there susceptible to engine failure. Unfortunately the SP6 engine's reputation is tainted by the early problems and people are avoiding buying SP6 cars because of this, which is a shame as I'd love a Tuscan.
The urban myth is the unreliability - yes there are a few people who have had problems, and some who have had the same problem after a rebuild - to me, that suggests driving technique may be at fault, i.e. a lack of mechanical sympathy.
There were some engine problems, but these appear to be largely sorted, and if the Typhon is pumping out 500bhp, and the Le Mans cars are using stock speed six blocks then they can't be that bad.
The engines that have blown up, have become a Chinese whisper type rumour, that perpetuates itself. No-one has bothered to look at the reasons for the failure, apart from "finger follower" problems, and the circumstances of the driving styles of those invloved may have as much to do with it.
So go and buy your Tuscan!!
I personally think that it would be in TVRs interest to try and offer a warranty for speed six engines out of TVRs normal 2 year warranty. If they are happy there is no longer a problem it shouldn't cost much
I'd say there was a lot more than just a few engines pre-2001 that have let go and a number have let go more than once, as I get the emails telling me, so its not an urban myth (of no substance or truth).
But lets keep this in perspective, this year so far I know of 4 engines letting go, all stemming from the original fishy finger supplier problem, as far as I can tell.
My brother has had 2 Tuscans and is now on a T350C, it hasn't put him off. I haven't heard of any recent speedsix cars (2002 on) having any problems.
Get a warranty for piece of mind or better still, set aside extra dosh to enable worry free motoring, just don't let something like this put you off having a Tuscan.
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