Oh no Libya, what about D R Congo, Rwanda, Sudan???
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Why are all the western governments so concerned about the human rights of people in Lybia all of a sudden and are making plans to send in troops and liberate the country etc.
If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
pete a said:
is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has.....
Of course. Why on earth do you have to ask such an obvious question? Oil runs the world economy. Libya has lots of it, so it's important what happens to it. DR Congo has no oil, so if they want to slaughter each other then (sadly) thats their business. If D R Congo wants sorting out, why don't you volunteer?
Its been the same since the first world war UK USA etc... liberate the country from an evil dictator and the country pays back the cost for decades to come. Just in these cases Iraq, Afganistan (Im sure they have some oil) now Lybia im sure the politicians would love to "help" the people of Iran out and all these countries can pay us back for decades to come in free oil.
blindswelledrat said:
DR Congo has s
t loads of oil and st loads of many other very precious materials so have you got any other thoughts Andy?
Problem with DR Congo.....is that the Chinese got in there first...t loads of oil and st loads of many other very precious materials so have you got any other thoughts Andy?In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
andymadmak said:
If D R Congo wants sorting out, why don't you volunteer?
What on my own, who do you think i am http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Okg3g2CwPlQ/SlHspqjUieI/...
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Problem with DR Congo.....is that the Chinese got in there first...
In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
Correct, China has been steadily building up its presence in Africa.
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Problem with DR Congo.....is that the Chinese got in there first...
In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
Myanmar is also rich in precious stones etc. It should by right be a rich country. Can't seeteh West trying to help out the Monks next time they kick off, what with the Chinese next door...In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
pete a said:
Why are all the western governments so concerned about the human rights of people in Lybia all of a sudden and are making plans to send in troops and liberate the country etc.
If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
Think the famous not the nine-O-clock news sketch.... "those killed... in order of importance 120 Americans, 19 British, 24 French and 2459 Philippinos"If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
Libyans as North Africans are richer and more European than Sub Saharan Africans. They aren't however as important as the residents of the Balkans :-)
The other key points:
1. We aren't actually doing that much in Libya
2. The issues with the country are political (solvable) rather than structural or cultural like in the other countries mentioned.
3. It's only 400 miles from Italy.
HFLagos said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Problem with DR Congo.....is that the Chinese got in there first...
In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
In fact, the chinese have got into a lot of the 'resource rich' african nations first.
That's probably the main reason why the West doesn't speak up about those areas as much.
Correct, China has been steadily building up its presence in Africa.
The other problem with DRC is it's jungle, makes winning very hard just like 'nam...
pete a said:
Why are all the western governments so concerned about the human rights of people in Lybia all of a sudden and are making plans to send in troops and liberate the country etc.
If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
Why is that wrong? Don't you and your family benefit from secure and reliable oil supplies? or are you one of the ignorant that pretends otherwise?If we are truly that concerned about human welfare why are we not in DRC, Rwanda, Sudan, and other places around the world where the people are oppressed and killed by horrendous regimes or militia's???
OR is it down to that good old OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL that Libya has and the other's don't
Why do the the western media and Governments keep trying to piss down our necks and tell us it's raining.
If you were running the country would you be happy to spend the lives of troops in foreign climbs for just some morals you yourself might have? Or would it be better if they actually were spent protecting something tangible?
HFLagos said:
Correct, China has been steadily building up its presence in Africa.
China doesn't give a f
k about human rights so will quite happily shoot idiots running around with machetes instead of sending them a book on embroidery and some peace crisps.China will stop them breeding like rabbits and starving where as the west will give the countries dictators a new palace and send lenny henry over to talk to the starving children.
In summary China are complete b
ds but its what Africa needsthinfourth2 said:
For Africa China is far better then the west getting involved
China doesn't give a fk about human rights so will quite happily shoot idiots running around with machetes instead of sending them a book on embroidery and some peace crisps.
China will stop them breeding like rabbits and starving where as the west will give the countries dictators a new palace and send lenny henry over to talk to the starving children.
In summary China are complete bds but its what Africa needs
sadly you are probably bang on correct there. China doesn't give a f
k about human rights so will quite happily shoot idiots running around with machetes instead of sending them a book on embroidery and some peace crisps.China will stop them breeding like rabbits and starving where as the west will give the countries dictators a new palace and send lenny henry over to talk to the starving children.
In summary China are complete b
ds but its what Africa needsthinfourth2 said:
HFLagos said:
Correct, China has been steadily building up its presence in Africa.
China doesn't give a f
k about human rights so will quite happily shoot idiots running around with machetes instead of sending them a book on embroidery and some peace crisps.China will stop them breeding like rabbits and starving where as the west will give the countries dictators a new palace and send lenny henry over to talk to the starving children.
In summary China are complete b
ds but its what Africa needsRather than treating the Africans like slaves in their own countries, they teach them how to use and develop their ressources, teach them new skills (the examples I am close to is agricultural machinery and agricultural ressources management) and actually give them the power (or the illusion of) that they can manage themselves.
Of course, if they f
k up, then they shoot them 
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