Wipers

Thursday 2nd May 2002

Wipe Out

The humble windscreen wiper hasn't evolved much in the last 70 years. Anyone got any better ideas?


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ducati916rdr

Original Poster:

11 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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In america there is a product which one coats the windshield with, RAIN-X. It puts a teflon coating on the window and needs reapplication about once per month, and in a decent rain at low to normal speeds, wipers become a thing of the past, not required, the water is wisked right off. As for those misty days, just a single wipe of the blade or the use of delay and then you are done.

M-Five

11,393 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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It's not Teflon in Rain-X it is ethanol.

Ethanol repels water, but eventually gets washed away, hence the re-application.

Rain-X is available from Halfords for about £5 a bottle.

The only thing is that (in my car anyway) you need to be travelling above 50mph to get the completely clear screen - otherwise it doesn't blow the water away properly.

Another system could be used such as the one on some ships which have either a rotating portion of the screen that goes through a stationary wiper or a screen that looks like a vertical, flexible, transparent conveyor belt.

The only other system I have heard about uses ultrasonic sound waves to vibrate the screen so quickly that the water droplets cannot form.

Fatboy

8,064 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Not to be too condescending, but ethanol certainly does not repel water - it is in fact infintely miscible with water. IIRC it is Teflon in Rain-x (or some other hydrocarbon based product)

JohnLow

1,763 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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A glass of whisky being about 40% ethanol, 55% water and 5% other stuff that make it taste good.

And What the f*k does IIRC mean? Everyone uses it, I'm confused.

thub

1,359 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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If I Remember Correctly...

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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IIRC = If I recall Correctly..
AFAIK = As far as I know..
FWIW = For What it's Worth..
ISTR = I seem to recall..
STFUYM = Shut the f**k up you moron

anonymous-user

60 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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IIRC - If I remember correctly, or someone told me this down the pub!

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Thankyou thats been bugging me for ages.

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Thank you very much!

Thats being annoying me as well!

Matt.

JohnLow

1,763 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Thanks!

Way off topic but ...

In the gulf war , apparently, US Air Force pilots were confused by hearing RAF pilots on routine surveillance reporting nothing to be seen, only "MMFD". After hearing this on the airwaves a lot somone finally asked what it meant.

"Miles and Miles of F*king Desert"



>> Edited by JohnLow on Thursday 2nd May 12:13

M-Five

11,393 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Not to be too condescending, but ethanol certainly does not repel water - it is in fact infintely miscible with water. IIRC it is Teflon in Rain-x (or some other hydrocarbon based product)



I missed out the 'and silicon' in my previous post and realised it should have been methanol not ethanol.

Not a good post all round really

Fatboy

8,064 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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I see BTW Methanol is also infintely miscible in water. Though silicone definitely isn't

nmlowe

1,666 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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quote:

IIRC = If I recall Correctly..
AFAIK = As far as I know..
FWIW = For What it's Worth..
ISTR = I seem to recall..
STFUYM = Shut the f**k up you moron



What about 'LMAO', 'IMHO' and 'IMO'?

That rain-x stuff is good-ish until you need to actually use the wipers. Then the judder across the windscreen not doing very much. Pretty good at keeping the windscreen from frosting up though!

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

M@H

11,297 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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..In My Opinion
..In My Honest/Humble Opinion

Cheers
Matt.



>> Edited by M@H on Thursday 2nd May 14:43

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Sorry.. earlier link missed out som real important ones such as WTF and FFS

this is better: www.gaarde.org/acronyms/

M-Five

11,393 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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I see BTW Methanol is also infintely miscible in water. Though silicone definitely isn't



According to one site it is methanol, another says silocone - go figure!

The Rain-X site does not answer though!

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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rain-x is based on SILANE ... Either silane or siloxane can also be cut in half and grafted to other chains such as polytetrafluoroethylenes.
(polytetrafluoroethylenes = PTFE = Teflon)

from www.wcmail.net/archives/PreSep2000/March_2000/msg00003.html

simpo one

86,761 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd May 2002
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Ethanol is simply good old alcohol, C2H5OH. It evaporates, and quickly - especially in pubs. Methanol is its little brother, CH3OH, and therefore evaporates even more quickly. They will help to dissolve grease but sure as heck will not leave a protective film!