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ok it is offical, Norman Tebbit has fired the starting pistol for the Post labour brain drain. he is extalling the virtues of moving for work and is suggesting like eastern europeans we should leave the country for somewhere better.
or does he just mean the welsh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
or does he just mean the welsh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
Well, my thoughts;
- If they want us to move, scrap stamp duty - it's barely fair tax that can only ever work in property boom times.
- He might want to dp something about (sensible) mortgage availability.
- Even with the above, there are plenty stuck in teh negative equity trap.
- If we had better transport links, companies and individuals could commute further, with ease, from their existing base.
Tebbit has a selective memory. He said:
"Why have we got today fathers who have never worked? In that sense we are worse off than we were before the war, before the welfare state."
There were soldiers who were drafted into WWI who came back to a dreadfully run country and the life for heros was on the dole, or would have been had there been a dole. My paternal grandfather, who lost a lung in WWI, who could not walk up a flight of stairs without having to stop once or twice, was told he was fit to work so did not get a war pension.
High unemployment was one of the methods (punishments) that the government used to push this country deep into debt. I had uncles who were rescued from unemployment by the inability of the government to keep us out of war. But then in any war thee were profits to be made.
It was Atlee, whose government got us the welfare state, who showed how to drag a country from bunkruptcy into the black. We were much worse off after WWII than WWI. A good, sensible government was the only difference.
Tebbit is a bit of an ar5e if he believes that there was no person who never worked before the war. But then I feel certain he does indeed know and is just telling lies.
My family were poorer than many because my grandmother would not let her boys steal, apart from coal but then everyone did that.
Tebbit, it would appear, wants us to go back to the pre WWII level of high unemployment and no dole, so there would be lots and lots of profits for very few people.
"Why have we got today fathers who have never worked? In that sense we are worse off than we were before the war, before the welfare state."
There were soldiers who were drafted into WWI who came back to a dreadfully run country and the life for heros was on the dole, or would have been had there been a dole. My paternal grandfather, who lost a lung in WWI, who could not walk up a flight of stairs without having to stop once or twice, was told he was fit to work so did not get a war pension.
High unemployment was one of the methods (punishments) that the government used to push this country deep into debt. I had uncles who were rescued from unemployment by the inability of the government to keep us out of war. But then in any war thee were profits to be made.
It was Atlee, whose government got us the welfare state, who showed how to drag a country from bunkruptcy into the black. We were much worse off after WWII than WWI. A good, sensible government was the only difference.
Tebbit is a bit of an ar5e if he believes that there was no person who never worked before the war. But then I feel certain he does indeed know and is just telling lies.
My family were poorer than many because my grandmother would not let her boys steal, apart from coal but then everyone did that.
Tebbit, it would appear, wants us to go back to the pre WWII level of high unemployment and no dole, so there would be lots and lots of profits for very few people.
Derek Smith said:
Tebbit, it would appear, wants us to go back to the pre WWII level of high unemployment and no dole, so there would be lots and lots of profits for very few people.
Who do you do this ? Although I might not always agree with what you say, you do at least generally seem to have a considered opinion but this sounds like a straight quote from some leftie red top designed to provoke.SplatSpeed said:
ok it is offical, Norman Tebbit has fired the starting pistol for the Post labour brain drain. he is extalling the virtues of moving for work and is suggesting like eastern europeans we should leave the country for somewhere better.
or does he just mean the welsh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
What Tebbit fails to point out its that is easy to get on you bike to look for work when work is a few miles away. Impossible if you have to move yourself and familly from a cheap part of the country to an expensive one. Or perhaps he thinks lots of poor Welshmen should be housed for free in central London while they sign on ?or does he just mean the welsh?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
Derek Smith said:
Tebbit has a selective memory. He said:
"Why have we got today fathers who have never worked? In that sense we are worse off than we were before the war, before the welfare state."
There were soldiers who were drafted into WWI who came back to a dreadfully run country and the life for heros was on the dole, or would have been had there been a dole.
As is common following such a large scale war there is temporary unemployment as soldiers are demobbed and war production industries are shut down. Not sure why you consider 1918s Britain to be a terrible run country. Given the massive debts incurred to fight the war the government was doing the best it could. "Why have we got today fathers who have never worked? In that sense we are worse off than we were before the war, before the welfare state."
There were soldiers who were drafted into WWI who came back to a dreadfully run country and the life for heros was on the dole, or would have been had there been a dole.
There was temporary unemployment but not welfare dependancy, because it was not an option. In 1920 unemployment fell to 2% and that was true unemployment not the unemployed excluding those on ICB we have now.
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