Nurburgring forum shut down by Richter
Nurburgring forum shut down by Richter
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nickythesaint

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1,396 posts

182 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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http://20832.com/forum_e/

Poor fella has been sadled with a €40k fine to boot. frown

Petrol Eddie

1,620 posts

224 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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I'm not aware of the site but is this order all part of the now evil Nurburgring corporation. With all the bad vibes surrounding the ring at present I don't think I'll go back this year until some good news stories start circulating.

Edited by Petrol Eddie on Sunday 13th February 00:27

Conian

8,030 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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40k fine are they serious? he was made aware of it and removed it
what law did he break? that is messed up.

EDLT

15,421 posts

222 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Whats happening to the 'ring is a bit weird imo, will PH be next if we keep saying mean things about the money grabbers that are running the place?

davepoth

29,395 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Conian said:
40k fine are they serious? he was made aware of it and removed it
what law did he break? that is messed up.
A state law. A law of the state that did the deal to lease the Ring. Seems their law is about as good as ours.

Cemesis

771 posts

178 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Its been going downhill for years. This this kind of stuff that is just another nail in their coffin. Its almost like its an American business.

We are going this year in April but only the once (down from 6 times a few years ago). Its not like it used to be at all and thats a real shame.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Having seen the events unfolding recently. I am amazed and confused as to what the current Owners logic is. They want people to only stay at their hotels, which are more expensive than the locally run options. They've thrown the manufacturer pool price through the roof. To the point that Pirelli have pulled themselves from the area. They've cancelled existing contracts with track day companies and hiked the price 60%+ So Scuderia Hanseat have stopped going too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVgiIQg5zps&fea...

They built a super fast roller coaster that failed it's safety inspection. (and has now been beaten by the Ferrari one in Abu Dhabi) They've a over priced mueseum that no ones visiting.

Unless the master plan is to close the track and build offices/houses there. I'm none the wiser as to why they think pricing it out of peoples reach is helpful confused

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 13th February 12:58

davepoth

29,395 posts

215 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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They've cocked up their business model badly, unfortunately. People go to Nurburg for the ring. They don't go there on a family holiday, they don't go to stay in a swanky hotel. They go to drive their cars around the most challenging circuit in Europe, and possibly the world. Richter didn't realise that people spend all of their spare money on the track, and don't want to waste it staying in a airport-style hotel.

And because of that, they're desperately trying to find a way to wring more money out. But it's looking like they may kill the goose that laid the golden egg if they carry on like this.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

225 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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What was the comment that was removed?!

It'll be interesting to see how many visits the 'ring gets this year...

Z06George

2,519 posts

205 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Cemesis said:
We are going this year in April but only the once (down from 6 times a few years ago). Its not like it used to be at all and thats a real shame.
My brother and I are going this year in April too, but by the sounds of it we might just go to Spa instead.

DrTre

12,957 posts

248 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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So..if you possess the Ring you become power crazed, greedy and evil...Tolkein was right..

Cemesis

771 posts

178 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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The stupid thing is, people I've never met from hundreds of miles away are saying the same thing. 10 of us went over last year and I said "Lets goto the new museum" and off we went. Parked up, walked in, asked how much it was and she gave me the price (€28 or something) and I said "Is that for one person?". She said it was, so we turned around and walked out. The place seemed abandoned as normal. They had 3 members of staff behind the desk too.

I do recommend people go and drive the track at least once but forget about all the new stuff and book as far in advance as you can at one of the local places.

The sadest thing is that the new restaurants, hotels and complex looks quite nice, its just so expensive that people won't pay.

paddyhasneeds

59,273 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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What's the story then? I've never been to the 'ring but didn't have it down as a holiday destination/resort - I thought it was just a track somewhere?

k-ink

9,070 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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The only way to end this is to abandon the entire place for a year. Zero cars on the track will terminate the nonsense in no time. Unfortunately it does mean the local business may have to do other trade in the iterim. Perhap hang some red lights outside hehe But if they are still kept ticking over with track time this will go on and on...

Conian

8,030 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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DrTre said:
So..if you possess the Ring you become power crazed, greedy and evil...Tolkein was right..
if there was a 'like' button i'd be clicking this!

nickythesaint

Original Poster:

1,396 posts

182 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Petrol Eddie said:
I'm not aware of the site but is this order all part of the now evil Nurburgring corporation. With all the bad vibes surrounding the ring at present I don't think I'll go back this year until some good news stories start circulating.

Edited by Petrol Eddie on Sunday 13th February 00:27
Its a famous ring community, as I understand it they broke the story/ leaked the news. The owner also runs the Save the ring community on facebook which has 48k 'fans' supporting them.

And also set up the petition, as I understand it. smile

fwaggie

1,644 posts

216 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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If the ring wasn't just a road winding though a load of hills and valleys, I would say they are deliberately doing this so the government sponsored (ok, loaned) plan will go bust, some completely unassociated ("honest guv!") people will step in, pay 10% of the debt for the whole lot and turn it into houses / hotels / offices.

But the place isn't in (or anywhere near) a main business community is it?

Baffling how everyone involved could not see what is so obvious to us.

I think if it goes on as it is, with maybe 10% ~ 25% of the normal traffic going to use the ring, and very, very little of that using the new hotels / restaurants / museum, they'll go bust and the locals will just have a hard year or three.

The government loan will have come from already paid taxes so hopefully the government won't cut right back on services / hike charges so the locals will be OK.

Mattt

16,664 posts

234 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Conian said:
DrTre said:
So..if you possess the Ring you become power crazed, greedy and evil...Tolkein was right..
if there was a 'like' button i'd be clicking this!
Ditto, nice comment!