Seriously Vauxhall WTF
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RacingPete

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9,071 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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You would think that consumable items on cars would be fitted so they are easy to replace, so when my mate asks if I can help him change the battery on his car, I thought pretty simple task, sure.

As I passed a motor dealer on way home I picked up a replacement battery and with toolbox in hand opened the bonnet.

Nestled in the back left of his Vauxhall Corsa (London run-around car) was the battery, so undid the clamp, undid the leads and slid the battery forward... and then comes the problem.

The battery doesn't have enough space to remove itself as the plastic grille like thing is in the way. After searching for bolts I am completely flumuxed on how to get the plastic out the way so the battery can come out. Why would you build such complexities into what should be an easy task?

So, does anyone know how you get the battery out to replace it? Or do I have to dismantle the whole back section of the engine bay (not that I have worked out how)?

NHK244V

3,358 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Roughly,,,
remove wipers
remove rubber seal
remove windscreen washer hose
remove plastic grill/cover thingy, a couple of plastic screws at the ends i think it was ? putting it back together is a PITA.

Google [bot]

6,798 posts

197 months

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

177 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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If I ever find a piece of trim or stuff in the engine bay, that gets in the way and doesn't appear to have any wires coming out of it, I rip it out. Water deflector my arse thumbup.

k-ink

9,070 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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New cars are just st. I will be researching what cars are a pain to work on before I part with my cash

RacingPete

Original Poster:

9,071 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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NHK244V said:
Roughly,,,
remove wipers
remove rubber seal
remove windscreen washer hose
remove plastic grill/cover thingy, a couple of plastic screws at the ends i think it was ? putting it back together is a PITA.
That is what I guessed I needed to do, but still with the wipers off I haven't worked out how to detach the windscreen washer hose, or the plastic grille/cover thingy...

Seems a massive pain for a stupid battery change! Bah!

RacingPete

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9,071 posts

220 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Google [bot] said:
That is how far I got when I looked at it, but the plastic grille/cover just won't flex enough to get the battery out.

boredofmyoldname

22,655 posts

215 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Your failure was assuming any car made after 2001 is supposed to be worked on at home. European Health and Safety legislation has been designed to slowly dumb us down until in 2021 it will be illegal to repair any motor vehicle and even a blown headlamp bulb will require a full factory rebuild of your car with a VAT and storage charge levied plus a £47,000 re-registration fee, this will reduce to £23,000 if you choose to accept the giant pauper badge on the rear of your car marking it as recylced and not as good as your neighbours 2 day old unicycle.

Glassman

23,691 posts

231 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Pete, if you're still having trouble, give me a call and I'll talk you through it. (any number via the website contact us page)

(depending on where you are, would be happy to come along and help).


RacingPete

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9,071 posts

220 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Glassman said:
Pete, if you're still having trouble, give me a call and I'll talk you through it. (any number via the website contact us page)

(depending on where you are, would be happy to come along and help).
Cheers mate, am at the game on Saturday, so if you are there let me buy you a beer for Corsa knowledge smile

carmadgaz

3,204 posts

199 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
Your failure was assuming any car made after 2001 is supposed to be worked on at home. European Health and Safety legislation has been designed to slowly dumb us down until in 2021 it will be illegal to repair any motor vehicle and even a blown headlamp bulb will require a full factory rebuild of your car with a VAT and storage charge levied plus a £47,000 re-registration fee, this will reduce to £23,000 if you choose to accept the giant pauper badge on the rear of your car marking it as recylced and not as good as your neighbours 2 day old unicycle.
Would be funny if it wasn't so close to the truth frown

I was amazed that my old '06 Swift had a section in the owners manual telling you how to change filters and things eek, nearly passed out in shock!

g3org3y

21,606 posts

207 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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NHK244V said:
Roughly,,,
remove wipers
remove rubber seal
remove windscreen washer hose
remove plastic grill/cover thingy, a couple of plastic screws at the ends i think it was ? putting it back together is a PITA.
eek Mental.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

194 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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g3org3y said:
eek Mental.
Its not that uncommon, from memory its newer clios that require the removal of pretty much all of the plastic trim at the bottom of the windscreen to access the air filter box, that includes wipers etc.

Had a 2005 325i in earlier for a basic service, looks like all of that would need to come off to do the plugs as 2.5 of the cylinders on the engine are hidden under all the plastic crap.

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

223 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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All this sort of stuff, whichever manufacturer, is easily summarised.
Form over function.

Glassman

23,691 posts

231 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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RacingPete said:
Cheers mate, am at the game on Saturday, so if you are there let me buy you a beer for Corsa knowledge smile
Not at the game, but about five miles from the stadium. Train station at the top of my road so if you did want to bring the car here and leave it on the drive, the train gets you to Fins Pk in about 10 mins.

GuinnessMK

1,608 posts

238 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Put new battery in the boot, strap it down. Jump leads, up through the parcel shelf, twice round the rear view mirror, through the passenger window, under the bonnet (may need to ease the panels apart to make sure it doesn't pinch). Then connect the jump leads to the wires in the engine bay. You could even put a bit of insulating tape around the connections if you were very good.

Simples.

If you are worried about the increase in weight by carrying two batteries around, or you are worried about the lack of carrying capacity in the boot, simply chop the old battery into bits with an axe.

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SaltyToe

1,910 posts

175 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Wait til you have to change the sidelights...

james_tigerwoods

16,341 posts

213 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I needed to jumpstart the OH's Honda Jazz on Tuesday (again) - I asked a workman that was at my neighbours to help - after he lined his van up, we realised that we could see the battery, but due to the expansion bottle (I think it was), we couldn't access the terminals...

We gave up pretty quickly after that...

Mr. Potato Head

1,164 posts

235 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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It's no wonder there's so many cars around with a headlight or two out, when you have to take the bumper off to get the unit out so you can access the bulb.

How many people go to the dealer, get quoted £115 and think "maybe next month then"

Naked profiteering.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

225 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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If anything needs European legislation it's car maintenance, I am surprised given that spare bulbs are a legal requirement in many countries that they haven't legislated that a bulb change should be possible at the side of the road using only the tools in the car's tool kit. After all what is the point in spare bulbs if you need a garage to actually strip the car down enough to change them.