Have Labour strung us up on their way out?
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Cant help noticing alot of bad Tax increases carry the line "put forward by the previous Labour government", so did they know they were going and decide to destroy everything by implementing proposals that would be difficult to get rid of, but that would come into effect after they had gone?
The fuel duty is the most obvious one, but also noticed this story about Council Tax Rent rise.
I'm sure there are others too...
The fuel duty is the most obvious one, but also noticed this story about Council Tax Rent rise.
I'm sure there are others too...
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Cant help noticing alot of bad Tax increases carry the line "put forward by the previous Labour government", so did they know they were going and decide to destroy everything by implementing proposals that would be difficult to get rid of, but that would come into effect after they had gone?
The fuel duty is the most obvious one, but also noticed this story about Council Tax Rent rise.
I'm sure there are others too...
Delayed implementation of tax changes was quite common during New Labour. In the days before the credit crunch tax cuts were often announced in the budget but didn't actually come into effect until 12 months later.The fuel duty is the most obvious one, but also noticed this story about Council Tax Rent rise.
I'm sure there are others too...
I think it is more noticable now as we have had a change of Government.
El'Winky and his cohorts were known by many to be following a scorched earth policy, something borne out, not only by legislation, but also the poor commercial terms of their PFI deal e.g. get pic in paper in front of a shiny new "labour" hospital, then let the nasty Conservatives steal from children and the disabled to pay 3 times the actual cost for it 
same policy labour have adopted for generations, plenty of stupid gullible people will fall for it
same policy labour have adopted for generations, plenty of stupid gullible people will fall for itPetrolhead_Rich said:
Cant help noticing alot of bad Tax increases carry the line "put forward by the previous Labour government", so did they know they were going and decide to destroy everything by implementing proposals that would be difficult to get rid of, but that would come into effect after they had gone?
Why is it difficult to get rid of? The current government could reduce tax and cut the size of the state if they wanted. Fittster said:
Petrolhead_Rich said:
Cant help noticing alot of bad Tax increases carry the line "put forward by the previous Labour government", so did they know they were going and decide to destroy everything by implementing proposals that would be difficult to get rid of, but that would come into effect after they had gone?
Why is it difficult to get rid of? The current government could reduce tax and cut the size of the state if they wanted. Fittster said:
Why is it difficult to get rid of? The current government could reduce tax and cut the size of the state if they wanted.
The previous government borrowed on the promise of future tax revenues. If the current government cut those taxes it couldn't afford to service its debts.El Guapo said:
The parlous state of Britain's finances isn't Labour's fault, it was those greedy bankers. Ask Harriet Harperson.
I heard a few quotes form Question Time last week and if you believed even half of what was said, you'd very quickly think all hell is the product of evil bankers and in particular "millionaires", all of which, apparently, are Conservative bankers and/or politicians.
Busa_Rush said:
I heard a few quotes form Question Time last week and if you believed even half of what was said, you'd very quickly think all hell is the product of evil bankers and in particular "millionaires", all of which, apparently, are Conservative bankers and/or politicians.
Sadly a large majority of the electorate think it is, and only vote against labour when the country is literally bankrupt!Last time they did, and the Tories had to make tough decisions, there was trouble, this time though.... ...oh wait...
The previous government also passed a bill requiring the deficit to be halved by 2014.
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2009-10/fiscal...
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2009-10/fiscal...
Bill said:
The Bill requires the Treasury to make sure that:
* Government borrowing in each financial year between 2010/11 and 2015/16 is lower than the previous year, measured as a percentage of GDP
* Government borrowing in 2013/14 is no more than half its 2009/10 level. A draft statutory instrument made under the Bill requires borrowing to be no more than 5.5 per cent of GDP in 2013/14
* Government debt is lower in 2015/16 than in 2014/15, measured as a percentage of GDP
* Government borrowing in each financial year between 2010/11 and 2015/16 is lower than the previous year, measured as a percentage of GDP
* Government borrowing in 2013/14 is no more than half its 2009/10 level. A draft statutory instrument made under the Bill requires borrowing to be no more than 5.5 per cent of GDP in 2013/14
* Government debt is lower in 2015/16 than in 2014/15, measured as a percentage of GDP
Munter said:
Which Labour MP left a note saying "Ha Ha there's no money left" or words to that effect on his desk to be read by the incoming conservative?
I think that says it all...
Do you really think that actually happened ?I think that says it all...
Is it not far too easy for the tory government to blame everything on the last government ? They seem to answer every question , I didn't do it , they did . How about elaborate on our plans you d
head , that was the question Yes I am talking about George
frosted said:
Do you really think that actually happened ?
Given that Liam Byrne, the former Chief Secretary to the Treasury admitted it. I'd say it's fairly likely it happened...http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...
frosted said:
Munter said:
Which Labour MP left a note saying "Ha Ha there's no money left" or words to that effect on his desk to be read by the incoming conservative?
I think that says it all...
Do you really think that actually happened ? I think that says it all...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/17/lia...
Munter said:
frosted said:
Do you really think that actually happened ?
Given that Liam Byrne, the former Chief Secretary to the Treasury admitted it. I'd say it's fairly likely it happened...http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...
From what I can remember there were a few cases in the past were such a note was left
The problem is that Winky didn't just piss away all the money he had and was getting in, but he has also pissed away all the money 'expected' to come in over the next 6 to 10 years!!!!!!!
This is why taxes can only keep going up as the next 6 to 10 years of tax reciepts have already been spent.
The finances are more fked than a fked thing that just got a first in fking from the university of fk.
This is why taxes can only keep going up as the next 6 to 10 years of tax reciepts have already been spent.
The finances are more f
ked than a fked thing that just got a first in fking from the university of fk.frosted said:
Munter said:
frosted said:
Do you really think that actually happened ?
Given that Liam Byrne, the former Chief Secretary to the Treasury admitted it. I'd say it's fairly likely it happened...http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...
From what I can remember there were a few cases in the past were such a note was left
t I'm chalking up your second as similarly insightful.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff