5th Gear

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JMGS4

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8,755 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th April 2002
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At last!! a car programme that really takes up the cudgels... working with the (usually rather sleepy) AA they really slammed the last 24 years of governmental UNDER-investment (Maggy and Phony Tony) in the roads and pointed out the idioticies in roadplanning....
As you rightly said it's THEFT when using road taxes to build palaces for government employees, or Millenium Domes, or other unwanted blots on the landscape! More of the same 5th Gear!!!! And we're P***ed Off about the daily electronic highwaymen as well!!!! as also previously ranted. More Guy Fawkes I say!

funkyboogalooo

1,844 posts

274 months

Tuesday 30th April 2002
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I agree on most points he made, all except one very major mistake. When he said they should have a safety fence between two carriage ways and showed the wire jobby. It is a well known fact that these can cut a motorcyclist clean in half even at very low speeds. These people really should do there homework first and Quentin crisp should know better.

JMGS4

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8,755 posts

276 months

Tuesday 30th April 2002
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I agree on most points he made, all except one very major mistake. When he said they should have a safety fence between two carriage ways and showed the wire jobby. It is a well known fact that these can cut a motorcyclist clean in half even at very low speeds. These people really should do there homework first and Quentin crisp should know better.


Agreed, but armco did a similar tragic job to a biker near here, his body slid under it but he was decapitated by the lowest bar! His helmet caught on the armco. I think it's safety for the majority here! And believe me I've seen what these wire barriers can do in Switzerland, catapulted a numptie woman in her MPV back into the emergency lane with no damage to the barrier or other cars; she was obviously putting on make-up or similar.

Cotty

40,110 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Not seen this program yet so cant comment but just to let you know that they are testing the Pagani Zonda tonight at 7pm.
Paul

pbrettle

3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Might be just me but Tuesdays is a repeat of Mondays programme and I missed the Zonda bit. I guess that it was in the first 5 minutes of the programme so you have been warned...

I missed it yesterday so repeat today then.

Cheers,

Paul

rthierry

684 posts

287 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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I watched it and left with mixed feelings. The 5 mins bit on the Zonda was nice but too short! And after this you have to cope with some utterly pointless muppets who have made their Golf the loudess car in Europe - no, not sport exhaust, hi-fi! who cares?!!?? Oh yes and after this, 10 minutes Tom Ford of Car Magazine praising the lastest Japcrap (a 1.3ltr Honda thing)...
I don't see the point of sending Tiff down to Italy to try all the Ferraris, Zondas and Lambos of the Earth if it is just for a 5 min. feature and a couple of powerslides. For Pistonhead's sake cars like the Zonda or the Murcielago deserve an entire programme! I'd rather listen to that glorious V12 that watch some silly bu**ers modify their Saxo.
Very mixed feelings in fact...

JonRB

75,719 posts

278 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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I must admit to similar feelings. I'd like to think that I'm learning to let people be enthusiastic about whatever pushes their buttons - even modified Saxos - but I was left wondering "so what?" about that Golf. I mean, its not even as if it could play music, it's just designed to play a monotone (no, not Celine Dion!) at a potentially fatal volume.

Errrrr, yes. And?

Anyway, each to their own, I guess, but it does seem about as pointless as having a cat-flap in an elephant house.

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Odd fact of the day:

Jonah Lomu used to own/still does own the loudest car stereo on earth.

Given the different groups of people that 5th Gear has to appeal to I reckon they are doing OK. They do have to have something for the Max P crowd, they have to have something for proper Pistonheads and they also have to have something for the masses.

Personally I agree and would love to see exotica such as the Muricelago for 30 minutes every week but I think they would find their viewing figures right down if they did that (if thats possible)

Matt.

Roadrunner

2,690 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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It's good they take a stand over issues etc for motorists, but lets face it, the program is shite. Yet another clone car program that tries to appeal to evey joe but not the enthusiast. I don't give a monkey's arse about shopping cars.

Bring back Clarkson fo sake. Let's have a programe dedicated to fast, exotic cars. Only preview the top marques, a little coverage on racing teams etc - rallying & track. I suppose they're worried about viewing figures. Well guess what, every red blooded bloke in the land will watch! Bloody wake up!

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

272 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Apparantly Mr Clarkson will be back for a new series of Top Gear soon (see Top Gear mag for details).

However, they are also running a competition to find a new presenter. They want the great unwashed to send in 5 minutes videos of themselves banging on about cars.

I'm all for giving people a chance, but I'd be happy for JC to do the program on his own. Loved him from his Performance Car days - although he should stick to cars and forget about the Chat Shows!

Just hope the new Top Gear is more focused towards the enthusiast (but with my cynical hat on, I'd say it will be the normal drivel....)

Who's up for a bit of PistonHeads TV? C'mon Ted!!!!!

pbrettle

3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Yeah, I too have mixed feeling about 5th gear also. I think that they are doing OK with such a restricted slot. I would imagine that an 1hr or even 3/4 hour programme would be much better. 30 minutes with a break in the middle is actually quite small and restrictive and given the broad appeal they want - not easy...

Given the format they are doing well. But when will the TV programmers realise that there are plenty of people out there that will watch car programmes on TV?!?! I mean, they put on some absolute rubbish at peak times (including repeats) yet dont expand the offering. Daft in the extreme....

What always puzzled me was that Top Gear was the highest watched programme on BBC2. So what do they do? Can it!!! Now correct me if I am completely off the mark here, but isnt that TOTALLY DAFT! Surely expanding it to 1hr would have been better.... Oh, no sorry forgot we have to make way for Dads Army on BBC1 so something had to give.... Fkwits the lot of them.

Cheers,

Paul

JMorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Top gears comming back, all praise Clarkson.
Apparently the Top Gear mag makes a small mint for the beeb so they were asked from high up what the hell were they thinking etc, according to loacal radio.
Of course they may be wrong

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pbrettle

3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Top gears comming back, all praise Clarkson.
Apparently the Top Gear mag makes a small mint for the beeb so they were asked from high up what the hell were they thinking etc, according to loacal radio.
Of course they may be wrong



Well thats a step in the right direction then. I must admit that the BBC does make some blindingly stupid decisions and this might just be one of them - not bringing back Clarko - but trying to resurect the Top Gear programme. Maybe a bit of the barn door and horses here?

Still hope someone got a good slapping for that before.

Cheers,

Paul

gtir

24,741 posts

272 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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One word, or rather one long name:

Vicky Butler-Henderson.......hmmmmm

nmlowe

1,666 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th May 2002
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Who's up for a bit of PistonHeads TV? C'mon Ted!!!!!




Good Idea!
We could cover all the topics from this forum (that should keep it going for a while)
We could have a - 'Who can spoil the Maxpower Cruise in the most inventive way' competition, and a review of all the good cars (no Fiat Multipla's)..

yum

529 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th May 2002
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The programme is too rushed and very short.

I timed it last night

By the time they have made way for the headlines on the hour, ads in the middle and end, the sponsor's messages and the opening and closing credits, they only have to fill 21mins 20 secs each week. No wonder it feels lightweight.

R

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Wednesday 8th May 2002
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Not particularly on the subject of 5th Gear as a whole but rather this weeks installment.

Tim Westwood - What a c*nt.

Matt.

GregE240

10,857 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th May 2002
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Tim Westwood - What a c*nt.



Spot on that man !!

Last night on the sofa:

Me: Oh, this bloke is priceless....
Mrs: What do you mean ?
Me: Listen....
(several minutes of Westwood trying to sound like a black man)
Mrs: Oh. What a w@nker !

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yum

529 posts

279 months

Wednesday 8th May 2002
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sorry, but was he for real? I thought it was a spoof!!!

If so, his role model must be Ali G.

CarZee

13,382 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th May 2002
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Greg - funny (?) story about Tim Westwood..

At Reading festival last August, in comedy tent watching comedian Marcus wossisname (think it's Bainbridge) - wears a cordroy jackets and glasses.

Anyway, in the course of his set, he said, "you know, I reckon Tim Westwood got himself shot to get a bit of credibility with the Sarf London Homeboys."

Later that night, Tim Westwood was shot. Again. How we laughed...

I never made it back to the comedy tent to find out if Marcus Cordroy dropped that bit from his next nights act..

BTW - Westwood has been going since long before Ali G was dreamed up. And his dad's a Vicar

edited to add: Comedian's name is Marcus Brigstocke

>> Edited by CarZee on Wednesday 8th May 10:26