Runflat Tyres: Are they more prone to punctures?

Runflat Tyres: Are they more prone to punctures?

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kev b

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2,754 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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My E60 BMWs have had three punctures in 15,000m, none of my other cars have had a single puncture in this time despite covering more milage over the same roads.
It seems strange to me that I have had more punctures in 18 months on RFT than in the previous 10 years,does anyone else have anything to add?

LukeSi

5,780 posts

176 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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it is a sign that you need normal tyres. You will probably find the ride is quite a bit better with normal rubber.

FamilyDub

3,587 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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I've only ever had one punture in eleven years. Get rid.

My GPS & 116d's comfort/ride were transformed when I got rid of the RFT's...

LeoSayer

7,541 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Most roads in the UK are in significantly worse state after the two harsh winters we've had.

kambites

69,527 posts

236 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Sounds like bad luck to me, unless you let the pressures drift off or something?

RobM77

35,349 posts

249 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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My Dad bought a 320d new in 2007 with runflats fitted as standard, and sold it on to me in November. It's now done 57,000 miles without a single puncture. My car before that was a 2007 Z4 Coupé, again with runflats, and no punctures on that either. To tell you the truth, I've actually never had a puncture on a car eek I can't offer an explanation for the OP's repeated punctures, but I've not yet heard that runflats are any more subject to punctures than normal tyres. I've also not had any problems with ride comfort; if you take into account the tyre profile they seem ok to me.

abarber

1,686 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Yes. 3 puntures in 20k miles with them. None since junking at all.

Mastodon2

14,043 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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I'm not sure about punctures, but I remember reading that as they do not absorb impacts as effectively, the wheels they are mounted too are more susceptible to impact fractures.

kev b

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2,754 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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I have not run these tyres whilst flat as they did not start to leak until the nails were removed, however nobody will repair a puncture in a RFT so they must be scrapped. This is far from amusing at £250 each!
I will think twice before buying another new BMW fitted with these tyres especialy as you don't get a spare or even a jack and wheel spanner.
In my neck of the woods it takes a couple of days to obtain a tyre, meaning your vehicle is unusable for 48 hrs or more,how can this be a good idea?
What happens if you get a puncture on a Sunday morning with a 300 mile journey in front of you, will BMW Assistance be able to find and fit a tyre or do they put the car on a flatbed and get you home that way? What if you miss your flight or a business meeting,why have customers accepted this flawed concept?
I was all for replacing my worn out set of RFT with normal (cheaper ,better riding) tyres but was warned that I would have to refit RFT to trade the car in,is this true?

Webber3

1,228 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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kev b said:
I have not run these tyres whilst flat as they did not start to leak until the nails were removed, however nobody will repair a puncture in a RFT so they must be scrapped. This is far from amusing at £250 each!
Did you try ATS Euromaster? They did have a statement on their website about RFT repairs, they will consider a repair as long as you haven't driven too far or too fast at zero pressure. I did find another place that repairs run flats, but both of the punctures I've had on run flats were too near the edge to repair.

For me, punctures always occur when one of the neighbours is having work done on their house. Some tradesmen must leak nails and screws out of the back of their vans frown

Charmless man

427 posts

199 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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I'm no fan of run flat's, hate the ride quality they give. Although I've never had a puncture in one and I've done well over 100k miles in recent years in BMW's fitted with RFT's, maybe just lucky though?

oldcynic

2,166 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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between 2 cars I've had 4 punctures and 1 soft tyre in the last 4 months - no runflats in sight, just winter tyres. However I think you (and I) have simply been unlucky - nails and screws will go through most tyres, although I've managed repairs 3 out of 5 times because I'm not on runflats and I don't have to use the aerosol gunk they supply with some cars. Prior to that about 1 puncture per year at most, often zero.

CooperD

3,028 posts

192 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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I've had run flats on all my three MINI's since 2003 and covered over 120,000 miles without one puncture so far.

Big Tav

645 posts

179 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Runflats aren't a flawed concept. BMW have good reasons for them. They are great from a safety point of view mainly.
Most bmw's are used for commuting and family cars so the risk of having a blowout are greatly reduced therefore much safer. Also if my wife is driving home at midnight and get a flat I dont want her parked on the side of the road, with runflats she drives home safe and I'll worry about it tomorrow.

Having no spare also cuts weight and helps BMW with better fuel economy and emission figure which are hugely important to the company. Also saves costs by not having tools or a jack.

I know they can be harder in the ride but 2nd gen runflats are much better. Anyway if the ride quality was such an issue why do people still fit 19's? The ride isn't that bad. Most people wouldn't even know the car had runflats if they didn't read about it online or something.

I do believe runflats should be optional including a spare though if ordering from the factory new.

kev b

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2,754 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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I am not sure about the weight saving,have you ever picked up arunflat tyre? They weigh far more than a normal tyre thus significantly increasing unsprung weight.
I am sure the weight saving of no spare or jack is negated by the extra tyre weight.You can still purchase a jack and spare from BMW c.£175,surely they could supply them as standard on a £35K vehicle.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

197 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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kev b said:
surely they could supply them as standard on a £35K vehicle.
BMW are about profit. They sell run of the mill cars at a greatly inflated prices under the guise of premium.

rallycross

13,538 posts

252 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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CooperD said:
I've had run flats on all my three MINI's since 2003 and covered over 120,000 miles without one puncture so far.
You really need to try driving a mini with non run flats fitted the ride is transformed, you also have wider choice of tyres with even good branded ones considerably cheaper than the run flats.


GhostDriver

878 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Was a mini driver for many years, used to get about 3 punctures a year

Big Tav

645 posts

179 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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HellDiver said:
BMW are about profit. They sell run of the mill cars at a greatly inflated prices under the guise of premium.
I wouldn't call them run of the mill...