The World is sinking...
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Victor McDade

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212 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I can see a lot more legal cases coming up.



Telegraph said:
The World is sinking: Dubai islands 'falling into the sea'
The islands were intended as the ultimate luxury possession, even for Dubai.


By Richard Spencer, Dubai 9:30PM GMT 20 Jan 2011

But the World, the ambitiously-constructed archipelago of islands shaped like the countries of the globe, is sinking back into the sea, according to evidence cited before a property tribunal.

The islands were intended to be developed with tailor-made hotel complexes and luxury villas, and sold to millionaires. They are off the coast of Dubai and accessible by yacht or motor boat.

Now their sands are eroding and the navigational channels between them are silting up, the British lawyer for a company bringing a case against the state-run developer, Nakheel, has told judges.

"The islands are gradually falling back into the sea," Richard Wilmot-Smith QC, for Penguin Marine, said. The evidence showed "erosion and deterioration of The World islands", he added.

With all but one of the islands still uninhabited – Greenland – and that one a showpiece owned by the ruler of Dubai, most of the development plans have been brought to a crashing halt by the financial crisis.

Nakheel, the developer, was part of Dubai World, the state-owned conglomerate that had to be bailed out of debts put at around $25 billion at the end of 2009. The Dubai World Tribunal was set up to hear cases arising out of the restructuring and separation of the companies involved.

The low-lying islands represent a vague shape out to sea when viewed from Dubai's beaches, but are visible by satellite or from the top of the city's Burg Khalifa, the world's tallest building, which opened to the public last year.

According to the company, 70 per cent of the World's 300 islands have been sold. Nakheel is also behind Dubai's famous Palm-shaped offshore developments. Villas in the only one near completion, Palm Jumeirah, were given to or bought by footballers including David Beckham and Michael Owen.

Though few celebrity buyers were found for The World, it was rumoured – or joked – that Brad Pitt and Angeline Jolie had considered Ethiopia.

Many investors who did buy the islands proved unwilling or unable to finance further work when Dubai's property prices halved in the space of a year.

Some were hit by troubles elsewhere – the owner of the company which bought Ireland for £24 million, John O'Dolan, committed suicide, while the man who bought Britain for £43 million, Safi Qurashi, is serving seven years in jail in Dubai after being accused of bouncing cheques.

The dispute being heard by the property tribunal involves Penguin Marine, the company which bought the rights to provide boat travel to the islands.

With little business, it is trying to exit the contract, which involves paying an annual fee of just under £1 million to Nakheel.

Nahkeel say they will cash an advanced payment guarantee worth just over £1 million if that happens.

Penguin claim that work on the islands has "effectively stopped". Mr Wilmot-Smith described the project as "dead".

Graham Lovett, for Nakheel, said the project was not dead but admitted it was "in a coma".

"This is a ten-year project which has slowed down," he said. "This is a project which will be completed."

He said Penguin would make money eventually. "That's the price Penguin makes to stay in the game," he said. "They have the potential to earn millions."

The tribunal found for Nakheel on Thursday, saying it would give full reasoning later.

A spokesman for Nakheel insisted the islands were not sinking. "Our periodical monitoring survey over the past three years didn't observe any substantial erosion that requires sand nourishment," a statement said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/8271643/The-World-is-sinking-Dubai-islands-falling-into-the-sea.html

JohnnyJones

1,778 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I saw a TV programme about the building of this, they were hosing sand from the sea bed into piles to make the islands.

I had wondered what would stop them eroding, seems I was right!

Good job I didn't buy one!

hyperblue

2,913 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Nobody saw this coming... laugh

Flintstone

8,644 posts

277 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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JohnnyJones said:
I saw a TV programme about the building of this, they were hosing sand from the sea bed into piles to make the islands.

I had wondered what would stop them eroding, seems I was right!

Good job I didn't buy one!
I saw that, really interesting. One of the problems they had was that water between the islands and the protective circle of sand around the perimeter was stagnating. The solution was to cut breaks into the perimeter and allow the water to flow but if this story is true it seems that is causing other problems.

All overpriced nonsense anyway.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Doesn't The Bible make some comment about the stupidity of building on sand?

Maybe The Koran doesn't have this bit.

GWC

4,432 posts

225 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Flintstone said:
JohnnyJones said:
I saw a TV programme about the building of this, they were hosing sand from the sea bed into piles to make the islands.

I had wondered what would stop them eroding, seems I was right!

Good job I didn't buy one!
I saw that, really interesting. One of the problems they had was that water between the islands and the protective circle of sand around the perimeter was stagnating. The solution was to cut breaks into the perimeter and allow the water to flow but if this story is true it seems that is causing other problems.

All overpriced nonsense anyway.
That was the first palm wasn't it? Which is also sinking.

Edited by GWC on Sunday 23 January 12:03

Hitch78

6,119 posts

224 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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The Palm is not sinking. I was on it today and all seemed fine.

GWC

4,432 posts

225 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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A five year study of it found that areas of it are/were, the developers strongly deny it. I was wrong to say it is.

Conian

8,030 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I remember seeing a show on it ages ago. It did mention stagnating water, and opening up channels, which then created erosion, which then meant they had to keep remaking the islands on a 'painting the severn bridge' kind of operation.

Chilli

17,320 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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It wouldn't surprise me. Hasn't HK's "new" airport sunk about a metre and they keep "propping it up"? Why should this be any different?

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Chilli said:
It wouldn't surprise me. Hasn't HK's "new" airport sunk about a metre and they keep "propping it up"? Why should this be any different?
Bring back these and the problem would be solved -


V88Dicky

7,373 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I'm surprised Greenpeas haven't blamed it on Climate Warming Global Change.







Yet. wink

Popeyed

566 posts

249 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I visited the "show" island about five years ago; it was not particularly inspiring, the villa reminded me of an office building.