Toyo Proxes appreciation thread
Discussion
I feel one is needed.
I've tried all kinds of tyres and brands on all kinds of FWD, 4WD and RWD cars, Firestones, Pirellis, Goodyears but nothing compares to the first time I've tried some Toyo Proxes T1-R's on my mk3 MR2.
The car has been transformed. The grip is fantastic. The feedback is superb. The consistency of grip corner to corner is so confidence inspiring and something I didn't expect. Best tyre I've tried in the dry and amazingly, the wet too. But best of all is the price - half price to me! This just doesn't seem possible in a capitalist world.
Ok so they may only last half as long, paticularly the sidewalls, but even adding a couple of psi seems to make little difference to all the positive factors. And at £45 a tyre, it still makes economic sense.
I'm never fitting anything else to any of my cars again! I can't see why anyone would.
Magic!
(typically, Toyo will now probably go bust)
edit: typos
I've tried all kinds of tyres and brands on all kinds of FWD, 4WD and RWD cars, Firestones, Pirellis, Goodyears but nothing compares to the first time I've tried some Toyo Proxes T1-R's on my mk3 MR2.
The car has been transformed. The grip is fantastic. The feedback is superb. The consistency of grip corner to corner is so confidence inspiring and something I didn't expect. Best tyre I've tried in the dry and amazingly, the wet too. But best of all is the price - half price to me! This just doesn't seem possible in a capitalist world.
Ok so they may only last half as long, paticularly the sidewalls, but even adding a couple of psi seems to make little difference to all the positive factors. And at £45 a tyre, it still makes economic sense.
I'm never fitting anything else to any of my cars again! I can't see why anyone would.
Magic!
(typically, Toyo will now probably go bust)
edit: typos
Edited by mattikake on Sunday 16th January 19:39
Have the T1R's on my Coupe , 215's fantastic grip and only het better as they warm up.
Fantastic for Spirited B road blasting
and I hope they're just as good on track as they're going to castle combe nextmonth ....... Will post an update of how they stand up to my smooth but some times 'exuberant' driving style
p.s they're better than I expected in the snow as well as standing water
Fantastic for Spirited B road blasting
and I hope they're just as good on track as they're going to castle combe nextmonth ....... Will post an update of how they stand up to my smooth but some times 'exuberant' driving style
p.s they're better than I expected in the snow as well as standing water
CatherineJ said:
Had them on a Clio 197 and have now had them fitted only yesterday to my Civic. They are replacing some Brigestone's that were absolutely dire even with a couple of thousand miles left in them.
What model of Bridgestone did you have?I have RE050s on the MX-5 and can't decide if it is the tyre or winter roads which are making the steering vague.
raf_gti said:
CatherineJ said:
Had them on a Clio 197 and have now had them fitted only yesterday to my Civic. They are replacing some Brigestone's that were absolutely dire even with a couple of thousand miles left in them.
What model of Bridgestone did you have?I have RE050s on the MX-5 and can't decide if it is the tyre or winter roads which are making the steering vague.
Edited to say that it's the T1-R's I have fitted.
Edited by CatherineJ on Sunday 16th January 19:52
Anyone with experience of lots of cars / tyre combinations will confirm the basic toyo t1 is a good value budget tyre but it is certainly not a performance tyre having very poor grip in the cold / wet / damp and the soft sidewalls make it a bad choice on any decent performance car.
But if you are limited in experience of judging tyre performance/handling you could be forgiven for thinking they are good due to the incredible low price which is the only good thing about these tyres.
But if you are limited in experience of judging tyre performance/handling you could be forgiven for thinking they are good due to the incredible low price which is the only good thing about these tyres.
rallycross said:
Anyone with experience of lots of cars / tyre combinations will confirm the basic toyo t1 is a good value budget tyre but it is certainly not a performance tyre having very poor grip in the cold / wet / damp and the soft sidewalls make it a bad choice on any decent performance car.
But if you are limited in experience of judging tyre performance/handling you could be forgiven for thinking they are good due to the incredible low price which is the only good thing about these tyres.
T1-R's are a great tyre , wet conditions are fine I kept up with a friend in his Swift sport with himBut if you are limited in experience of judging tyre performance/handling you could be forgiven for thinking they are good due to the incredible low price which is the only good thing about these tyres.
running eagle F1's no problems and at a 'fair' pace.
Snow and cold condtions arn't that bad I managed to get out of my road and have a fairly descent amount of traction.
And to be honest in some respects you're right but , the T1R's are a good tyre it has nothing to do with driver experience it's about feeling and what works best with that individual car.
I've driven an Mx-5 on 888's that was great because they suit the car and it's chassis dynamics whereas T1R's suit my car as it's a little heavier and gets used on a daily bassis with some spirited B road blasting and minimal track use.
CatherineJ said:
Turanza ER300's. They lasted 19,000 miles and weren't quite at the wear indicators, but since Christmas the car just didn't feel the same and was very poor under braking.
Edited to say that it's the T1-R's I have fitted.
You're complaining about tyres that were close to the legal limit? Edited to say that it's the T1-R's I have fitted.
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