can a carafe/decanter improve supermarket wine?
can a carafe/decanter improve supermarket wine?
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paultownsend

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3,381 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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so i love wine. my wallet does not. im by no means however a wine buff.

my friend and i have a weekly; pale ale from the jug at the local, a hearty meat based dinner and then a few bottles of wine followed by cheese evening.

Costco seem to buy good wine. Sancerre, Chablis Premier etc. but we mainly stick to reds. Their margaux and chateauneufs are excellent.

But i also find Morrisons selection of wine great. Normally picking up something tempraniilo based wine for a good price. Their Rioja's and Chianti's are normally good too. And its interesting that these wines are stamped from that region. That seems to add a little confidence.
Most wines i get are advertised half price, circa £6. But i know how the game works. And the true value. Never worth £12rsp.

But this i do know. Like a good chilli or bolagnaise, wine always tastes better the next day, not that it ever lasts that long.

So up to the question, would a cheapish carafe or decanter style jug make my supermarket wine taste nicer the day of pruchase?
Looking at the LSA or Sagaform ones on amazon there cheap enough and a nice design. John Lewis also do a nice range but then its getting a little expensive. Especially after my indulgence after the new Circulon pan set smile

21TonyK

13,227 posts

237 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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Same sort of philosophy myself. I drink way too much wine, way, way too much. Sometimes I treat myself but regularly it's the £5-6 a bottle supermarket specials. I also find these are a lot better after a few hours on the side. More recently I've been buying from an independent importer, mainly £5-7 stuff with a couple of really nice free bottles (a reflection of how much I spend with him eek ).

The cheaper stuff is much better after an hour on the side, I opened a couple of bottles at lunch today ready for tonight. The other day I decanted a bottle and put it through the venturi wine thing and it still tasted the same as straight out of the bottle.

I did open a bottle of Rioja at Xmas (a freebie as above) as was told I must decant it and let it rest for a few hours. Did as I was told and it was bloody fantastic!

My understanding is virtually all wine will benefit from breathing for a while but decanting is only to eliminate sediment (hence only of "good" wines).

hornetrider

63,161 posts

233 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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21TonyK said:
My understanding is virtually all wine will benefit from breathing for a while but decanting is only to eliminate sediment (hence only of "good" wines).
The decanting process does aerate the wine so brings on the effect of breathing quicker.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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It should improve the taste, dont rule out a quick trip across the channel to pick up bargains carrefour or l`eclerc had some great deals when we were there at christmas. If you can set up a "cellar" there were some excellent Bordeaux produced in 2009 that if laid down now for 5+ years will be fabulous 6 bottles for £30 for Bordeaux Superior or as low as 6 for £15 for some! Plus many that are ready to drink from 2005 and before for £6+

21TonyK

13,227 posts

237 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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mad4amanda said:
It should improve the taste, dont rule out a quick trip across the channel to pick up bargains carrefour or l`eclerc had some great deals when we were there at christmas. If you can set up a "cellar" there were some excellent Bordeaux produced in 2009 that if laid down now for 5+ years will be fabulous 6 bottles for £30 for Bordeaux Superior or as low as 6 for £15 for some! Plus many that are ready to drink from 2005 and before for £6+
I had a bottle of Bordeaux the other night, Xmas pressie, £10+ on the web, Mouton xxx? Didn't really like it much. Bit "thin", I'm used to heavy Rioja's etc.

I have regular access to Carrefour etc in France and Spain. Any specifics I can add to an emailed shopping list to be brought back for me?

Ta

Simpo Two

92,548 posts

293 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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Cheap wine - pour half from great height into Pyrex jug, microwave for 1 min on high, then pour back into bottle and agitate.

Works well enough silly

escargot

17,123 posts

245 months

Sunday 9th January 2011
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Mouton cadet Tony?

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

192 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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escargot said:
Mouton cadet Tony?
we had a nice 2003 at christmas were you drinking it too young perhaps?

21TonyK

13,227 posts

237 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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mad4amanda said:
escargot said:
Mouton cadet Tony?
we had a nice 2003 at christmas were you drinking it too young perhaps?
Yep, 2007, 80th Anniversary packed bottle. Wine doesn't last long enough in our house to "age" ;-)

escargot

17,123 posts

245 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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It definitely improves with age. FIL has a couple of cases of 98 in his cellar and it's very nice indeed for what is essentially a budget blended bordeaux.

alfa pint

3,856 posts

239 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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A decanter will pretty much improve most supermarket reds. Some of the more complex french reds will suffer as a result i.e. burgundy, but I decant about 70% of my red.

giw12

1,454 posts

291 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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21TonyK said:
mad4amanda said:
It should improve the taste, dont rule out a quick trip across the channel to pick up bargains carrefour or l`eclerc had some great deals when we were there at christmas. If you can set up a "cellar" there were some excellent Bordeaux produced in 2009 that if laid down now for 5+ years will be fabulous 6 bottles for £30 for Bordeaux Superior or as low as 6 for £15 for some! Plus many that are ready to drink from 2005 and before for £6+
I had a bottle of Bordeaux the other night, Xmas pressie, £10+ on the web, Mouton xxx? Didn't really like it much. Bit "thin", I'm used to heavy Rioja's etc.

I have regular access to Carrefour etc in France and Spain. Any specifics I can add to an emailed shopping list to be brought back for me?

Ta
If you're going to Calais I'd give the hypermarkets a miss. Pretty disappointing on the whole and far too much choice.

Try a specialist...this guy is excellent www.boursot.co.uk and he's about 10 mins drive from calais

paultownsend

Original Poster:

3,381 posts

211 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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i dont think the mk2 golf will ever make it to the hypermarkets. the box ratios are far too short for a 1k round trip smile

thats why i asked about your boggo discounted uk supermarket wine.
generally wouldnt go for supermarket french reds. normally spanish or italian. i prefer the newer world stuff so normally a very young bottle, never older that 5 years

Balmoral Green

42,560 posts

276 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Cheap wine - pour half from great height into Pyrex jug, microwave for 1 min on high, then pour back into bottle and agitate.

Works well enough silly
rofl

It's funny because it's true.