Blade damage!

[Scantily]

Hello chaps, I was given a G2 for Christmas and noticed today that there was some damage to the blade. A couple of small chips and most of the blade has a rough burred edge. I have no idea how, as I have a couple of other globals and know how to treat them. They do not get used on hard surfaces, bone etc and never go in the dishwasher. Does anyone know if I can sharpen these out with a minosharp? Or if this is worth trying to return it?

[21TonyK]

No big deal, order a minosharp (with medium and fine) wheels from ebay and it will keep them in order. Mine get knocks like that every other day, they still "work".

[sherman]

You could take it to a metal fabricators if the dents are deepand get them to grind a new edge on to it and then spend the rest of the night sharpening it back to a fine edge with the sharpener you mention and also a steel.

[bigandclever]

Would I be an awful person to think that a week's worth of use and that kind of damage suggests a fake?

[dmitsi]

Says fake to me too.

[ROB_GTR]

Sharpening using an electric sharpener will be doing them the world of good!

Throw it away asap and buy some good whetstones

[Scantily]

Ok, have run it through my minosharp which has cleaned the edge up quite nicely. I don't think it's a fake, as it's absolutely bd sharp, feels good in the hand and came in the box etc. Will have a closer look tomorrow. And if I use a whetstone then I'll blunt the blade in about 10 seconds, never have got the hang of them, The minosharp has worked pretty well for me for the past couple of years, only downside being that they don't last a huge amount of time before the ceramic wheels get covered in metal and don't sharpen as well.

[uncinqsix]

Scantily said:

And if I use a whetstone then I'll blunt the blade in about 10 seconds, never have got the hang of them

Learn.

If you want sharp, there is no other way. The damage to that blade would have taken me 2 minutes to remove using my 600 grit diamond plate and a further 8-10 on the 1000 and 6000 waterstones to get a polished razor edge, far sharper than possible with something like a minosharp. It's not nearly as difficult as it looks.

[dmitsi]

Glad it's cleaned up ok, hopefully it's a good one. Be careful.

I was given a new cooks knife for christmas, last night my housemate had used it, this morning I went into the kitchen and it was sitting blade down in one of those metallic utensil holders. Do I teach them the error of their ways with words or the sword? I know which is mightier, but I get the feeling the point might be made better if I chop off a little finger.

[escargot]

No point beating around the bush, murder is your only option.

[dmitsi]

I'll wait until she's asleep, if the blade had been damaged I'd let her know about it. I don't want to overreact though.

[Stoatman]

Sorry mate , but I would have to vote for a fake as well. The edge just does not look right, it does not look sharpened correctly.
See here , specifically at the bottom :

http://www.metrokitchen.com/about-global-knives

(I have bought a couple of fakes myself a few years ago)

[Pete Franklin]

Easy way to find out. If you can hear sand rattling in the handle when you shake it next your ear it should be real (on the bigger knives)

[21TonyK]

I can't see anything wrong with it. Assuming it's a fake because it has a few sub-millimetre nicks in the edge is a big leap. Global knives are soft stainless steel.

[Stoatman]

I dont really agree that the steel used is soft , and the damage seen there is very odd if it is genuine. Unless you have whacked a bone or it came out the box like that, then I have never seen any thing like it in years of owning japanese blades after such soft use. By the way , did it have a box ?

The edge I was talking about can be seen , just about , here. It "feathers" quite a way up the blade :

http://www.globalknives.uk.com/images/uploads/down...

This is how I figured out mine was fake. Although It was sharp on delivery.

[21TonyK]

Just looked at mine and you're right. The "feathering" is much greater than in the previous pics. But, mine are real and after a solid weeks use in the kitchen they need a lot of work to get them back to a perfect edge and I never use them for anything but finishing work. Even my global boning knife is used for filleting fish not actually boning joints.

IME it doesn't take much to take a chunk out of a stainless knife compared to a (typically German) carbon steel blade.

[Stoatman]

Fair enough if you can guarantee its authenticity. I would definately be taking it back , looks like it needs a fair bit of aggressive whetstone work to get those chips out.

[ChrisnChris]

Just noticed this thread....might not be much use but Genuine Global knives are made in 2 parts, except for the smaller ones.

The blade, high carbon stainless steel will be magnetic, the handle will not react to a magnet.

Fake knives will generally be magnetic throughout.

This doesn't help your blade issue, but you will know if you have a genuine Global