I want an electric car!
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I know this sounds a little insane but I really want an electric car!
the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
You are not alone.
I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
For all those people that see the car as something to get from A to B they make a lot of sense. For the 100's of short journeys we do, an electric car would be perfect. A small GT range extender would be great, but for the very few long journeys I do I could easily rent a car and still be much better off.
The more people that do it the better, leaving all that lovely petrol available for petrolheads to use!
I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
For all those people that see the car as something to get from A to B they make a lot of sense. For the 100's of short journeys we do, an electric car would be perfect. A small GT range extender would be great, but for the very few long journeys I do I could easily rent a car and still be much better off.
The more people that do it the better, leaving all that lovely petrol available for petrolheads to use!
dave9 said:
I know this sounds a little insane but I really want an electric car!
the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
The battery has a life of about 7 years I think, so £80 a month is a good deal considering they're about £7K to replace.the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
davepoth said:
dave9 said:
I know this sounds a little insane but I really want an electric car!
the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
The battery has a life of about 7 years I think, so £80 a month is a good deal considering they're about £7K to replace.the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
And in 7 years those batteries will be 20% of the price there at now
Edited by frosted on Sunday 2nd January 15:57
yeah but its £80 per month ontop of the cars price which makes a normal clio etc more economical really
in 3 years or so when new ones come out that will be my time to strike.
the government actually give a motorist £5k instead of taking £5k off you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they should make that nissan leaf thing cheaper than £24k to make sure it catches on.
i find it weird why they promote electric as it just comes from coal fired power stations etc but if it's £3 to fill up then i'll do it. Would be good if you can just plug it in in your garage too rather than detour to a petrol station and have to queue etc - would only take 10 seconds to put the plug in. OK it would take 30 mins to charge but you can do that each night when you get in.
i've had it with petrol cars now apart from the fun weekend stuff.
in 3 years or so when new ones come out that will be my time to strike.
the government actually give a motorist £5k instead of taking £5k off you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they should make that nissan leaf thing cheaper than £24k to make sure it catches on.
i find it weird why they promote electric as it just comes from coal fired power stations etc but if it's £3 to fill up then i'll do it. Would be good if you can just plug it in in your garage too rather than detour to a petrol station and have to queue etc - would only take 10 seconds to put the plug in. OK it would take 30 mins to charge but you can do that each night when you get in.
i've had it with petrol cars now apart from the fun weekend stuff.
You are not alone.
I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
For all those people that see the car as something to get from A to B they make a lot of sense. For the 100's of short journeys we do, an electric car would be perfect. A small GT range extender would be great, but for the very few long journeys I do I could easily rent a car and still be much better off.
The more people that do it the better, leaving all that lovely petrol available for petrolheads to use!
I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
For all those people that see the car as something to get from A to B they make a lot of sense. For the 100's of short journeys we do, an electric car would be perfect. A small GT range extender would be great, but for the very few long journeys I do I could easily rent a car and still be much better off.
The more people that do it the better, leaving all that lovely petrol available for petrolheads to use!
98elise said:
You are not alone.
I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
Im sure they could well make a mondeo sized electric car however making it light enough it would probably mean a price tag of 60k+I'd love a mondeo sized electric car to replace my petrol one. Electric Cars will not mean the the end of the IC Car, in the same way the car didn't mean the death of the horse. There will always be a market for decent petrol cars.
Im all for new tech
i think the tesla is amazing and a good, quick car too with 200 mile range. if that was more affordable it would be a big hit.
the prius never really caught on as its still a petrol powered car with worse fuel economy than a diesel.
needs to cost less than £15k then get the £5k subsidy to bring it down to 10k and needs to do 150 miles preferably 200 plus on a fill up and look like a normal car and do 0-60 in around 10 seconds and have a top speed of about 105-110 miles per hour and people would buy loads. technology may not exist for that yet but i think 2 years and it may do
the prius never really caught on as its still a petrol powered car with worse fuel economy than a diesel.
needs to cost less than £15k then get the £5k subsidy to bring it down to 10k and needs to do 150 miles preferably 200 plus on a fill up and look like a normal car and do 0-60 in around 10 seconds and have a top speed of about 105-110 miles per hour and people would buy loads. technology may not exist for that yet but i think 2 years and it may do
frosted said:
davepoth said:
dave9 said:
I know this sounds a little insane but I really want an electric car!
the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
The battery has a life of about 7 years I think, so £80 a month is a good deal considering they're about £7K to replace.the reasons are that the Renault Zoe costs £14k after your free £5k grant from the government, it costs about £3 to fill up and you can do many miles on a tank.
I'm at the stage in life where i can thankfully afford a nice car within reason but i'm sick of the government screwing money out of me.
£455 road tax, £1,000 first registration charge, £70 in tax each time you fill up, congestion charge and all the other anti motoring things they do. Then they seem to be lowering ever speed limit in the land to 30mph from 40mph and NSL zones to 40mph and so on. As if any of us actually do 30mph in every 30 zone - ok in a school zone at 9am etc but most people cruise through at 45mph in most 30 zones. Traffic is so bad that you can't ever get up to NSL in an NSL zone etc
granted, i'll always have the weekend car for a fun drive on country roads but in urban life going to the supermarket, gym, pub etc etc etc is the modern car dying a death?
If I could have a renault zoe for £14k but didn't have to pay £80 per month to lease the battery i'd do it.
Am I alone in this?
And in 7 years those batteries will be 20% of the price there at now
Edited by frosted on Sunday 2nd January 15:57
Edited by 98elise on Sunday 2nd January 16:19
I love the naivety on these electric car threads.
How long do you think it will be before governments losing revenue from the duty on liquid fossil fuels used in cars start applying duty to the electricity used in cars? It'll be easy to justify as well - our current electric generating capacity is no where near being able to cope with large numbers of electric cars so a load of duty is going to be needed to fund the nuclear power stations we're going to need. And the enviromentalists who want us all to drive electric cars will fight tooth and nail to stop the new power stations being built!
How long do you think it will be before governments losing revenue from the duty on liquid fossil fuels used in cars start applying duty to the electricity used in cars? It'll be easy to justify as well - our current electric generating capacity is no where near being able to cope with large numbers of electric cars so a load of duty is going to be needed to fund the nuclear power stations we're going to need. And the enviromentalists who want us all to drive electric cars will fight tooth and nail to stop the new power stations being built!
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