Solvent weld - how long to cure in the cold?
Solvent weld - how long to cure in the cold?
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otolith

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69,420 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Just had to replace the external pipework connecting the dishwasher and washing machine drains to the foul drain. How long before I can use the dishwasher? It won't be under pressure, but it's bloody cold out there.

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

229 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Which solvent weld is it? We probably have the COSHH and data sheets for it.

dirkgently

2,160 posts

261 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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I think you will find that it advises twenty-four hours on the tin, but most wastes are lucky to get twenty-four minutes.

mrsxllifts

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229 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Also depends on temperature (safe to say below freezing) and pipe material.

Spudler

3,985 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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As you wont be pressure testing and the size of pipe your using, 15 minutes in sub-zero temps is fine.

otolith

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69,420 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Thanks chaps! It's Wickes own brand stuff. I guess it should be fine if I leave it a few hours then?

normalbloke

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249 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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otolith said:
Thanks chaps! It's Wickes own brand stuff. I guess it should be fine if I leave it a few hours then?
Oh dear...

Spudler

3,985 posts

226 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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otolith said:
Thanks chaps! It's Wickes own brand stuff. I guess it should be fine if I leave it a few hours then?
Yes.
Never used Wicks brand but i cant see it being any different than a branded name.

mrsxllifts

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229 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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The general rule seems to be at 0 degrees, set in 10mins, fully cured in 6hrs, but the curing time is ready for pressure test at 60bar so a waste doesn't need that. Half hour cup of tea and a warm up and you'll be fine!

dirkgently

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261 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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mrsxllifts said:
The general rule seems to be at 0 degrees, set in 10mins, fully cured in 6hrs, but the curing time is ready for pressure test at 60bar so a waste doesn't need that. Half hour cup of tea and a warm up and you'll be fine!
eight hundred and seventy psiyikes I doubt the tube would take that.

Gingerbread Man

9,173 posts

243 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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When doing bathroom wastes inside, you'll be lucky to be able to move the two glued pieces after 30 seconds!

mrsxllifts

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229 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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dirkgently said:
mrsxllifts said:
The general rule seems to be at 0 degrees, set in 10mins, fully cured in 6hrs, but the curing time is ready for pressure test at 60bar so a waste doesn't need that. Half hour cup of tea and a warm up and you'll be fine!
eight hundred and seventy psiyikes I doubt the tube would take that.
I think that was for one of these stupid, could it survive a bomb type tests, 'look no pipe, but our joint held up' sort!

Globs

13,847 posts

261 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Gingerbread Man said:
When doing bathroom wastes inside, you'll be lucky to be able to move the two glued pieces after 30 seconds!
Yes - usual time to 'joint immovable' is about 8 seconds..

Festive Ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Sunday 26th December 2010
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Just use it. smile

MOTORVATOR

7,637 posts

277 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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I have recently achieved a BA {hons} in solvents, under the labour government iniativiiivee, and my dissertation to achieve such was upon the subject 'Dishwashers and the act of utilising upvc plastics to improve their interaction with foul water systems'.

By my calculation and utilisation of the safe EU targets of exposure, your newly installed pipework should be safe to utilise from June 6th this year, subject of course to you not being pregnant.

You should in order to protect yourself from future litigation ask all visitors to the premises to complete the following questionaire prior to allowing them within 15m of the installation.

1. Are you abnormally tired?
2. Do you have palpitations of the heart even when you don't exert yourself?
3. Do you often have painful tingling in some part of your body?
4. Do you often feel irritated without any particular reason?
5. Do you often feel depressed without any particular reason?
6. Do you often have problems with concentrating?
7. Do you have a short memory?
8. Do you often perspire without any particular reason?
9. Do you have any problems with buttoning and unbuttoning?
10. Do you generally find it hard to get the meaning from reading newspapers and books?
11. Have your relatives told you that you have a short memory?
12. Do you sometimes feel a tightness in your chest?
13. Do you often have to make notes about what you must remember?
14. Do you often have to go back and check things you have done such as turned off the stove, locked the door?
15. Do you have a headache at least once a week?
16. Are you less interested in sex than what you think is normal?

Less than 28 years of age, with more than four symptoms in the 16 questions, should be further checked by a physician.

28 years of age or older, more than six symptoms should be further checked by a physician.

Certainly that will protect you to some degree, but of course you will still require a suitability qualified professional to inspect the installation before use.

Be aware that though that John Prescott may still personally find you find you in breach of the act.

"If a person carrying out building work contravenes the Building
Regulations, the local authority or another person may decide to
take them to the magistrates’ court where they could be fined up
to £5000 for the contravention, and up to £50 for each day the
contravention continues after conviction (section 35 of the Building
Act 1984)."

So how smart do you feel now with your diy attitude? biggrin

Festive Ferg

15,242 posts

287 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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MOTORVATOR said:
I have recently achieved a BA {hons} in solvents, under the labour government iniativiiivee, and my dissertation to achieve such was upon the subject 'Dishwashers and the act of utilising upvc plastics to improve their interaction with foul water systems'.
I'd be fairly sure the pipework is ABS....
smile

Simpo Two

92,983 posts

295 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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MOTORVATOR said:
So how smart do you feel now with your diy attitude? biggrin
You can of course then sue B&Q for £2,000,000 for selling solvents to a non-competent personage...

I'm halfway through my first cup of boiing water, alkaloids and fat...

MOTORVATOR

7,637 posts

277 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Festive Ferg said:
MOTORVATOR said:
I have recently achieved a BA {hons} in solvents, under the labour government iniativiiivee, and my dissertation to achieve such was upon the subject 'Dishwashers and the act of utilising upvc plastics to improve their interaction with foul water systems'.
I'd be fairly sure the pipework is ABS....
smile
Oh bks, so you're telling me that 3 years on a government sponsored education course and I'm not qualified to comment on this type of installation. No wonder these new students don't want to pay for them in future. wink

mk1fan

10,916 posts

255 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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I would have thought the degree would be a BSc or a BEng rather than a BA?

rb5230

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202 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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dirkgently said:
mrsxllifts said:
The general rule seems to be at 0 degrees, set in 10mins, fully cured in 6hrs, but the curing time is ready for pressure test at 60bar so a waste doesn't need that. Half hour cup of tea and a warm up and you'll be fine!
eight hundred and seventy psiyikes I doubt the tube would take that.
rofl yeh i think mrsxllifts means 60psi.