Budget DSLR's ??

[wackojacko]

Howdy !
I'm looking for suggestions/opinions on Budget DSLR's, I have a loose budget of £ 400.

We have an Eos 7D in the household but it's not always available for my use so I've decided to opt for a budget stand in camera.
so far I've looked at Internet write ups on :

Panasonic Lumix G10 (great reviews)
Fuji Finepix Hs10
Cannon 1000D

I'm
leaning toward the Panasonic as it seems to have great writeups and is fairly light weight.

Anyone have any other suggestion or experience/opinions about the cameras listed above.

Cheers
Jacko

Edited by wackojacko on Friday 24th December 22:21

[Dogsey]

Surely the Canon is the only one of those to chose, mainly because if you already have a 7D in the house you'll be able to share lenses and accessories.

The Fuji isn't even a DSLR is it?

[wackojacko]

Dogsey said:

Surely the Canon is the only one of those to chose, mainly because if you already have a 7D in the house you'll be able to share lenses and accessories.

The Fuji isn't even a DSLR is it?

Unfortunately we only have the single 220mm lens at the momment so the lens would be in use etc , the basic package of the 1000D doesn't come
with a lens therefore countering the whole idear to get a stand in camera
good idear tho

Now looking at info spec sheet I think you may be right about the Fuji.
Cheers

[flat-planedCrank]

Loose budget of £400? If that stretches to £484 then you can get a 500D with the nice 18-55 IS kit lens (including the £30 cashback)

I'd probably go for a used camera though - get an older **D model Canon.

As has been said, I'd go for a Canon model if there is a 7D in the house already. You can share lenses and other stuff like flashes...

[dblack1]

Id go with the canon, unless you dont wanna share lenses... The canon also has the largest (physical size) sensor of the 3.

There seems to be a few misconceptions about what a SLR actually is. before the coming of SLRs (single lens reflex) there were twin lens reflex cameras. The twin lens cameras had 2 different lenses, 1 for the film, and 1 for viewing. Almost all modern cameras are technically SLRs (the same lens views and exposes). Today it is commonplace to refer to a camera that can interchange lenses as a SLR. Generally a camera that is labeled an SLR today has a large sensor and a lens interchange system

[Simpo Two]

And a viewing system that allows you to look through the lens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_ca...

Whilst any £49 compact uses the same lens to view and compose, I would hesitate to call it an SLR...!

Some may split hairs but to me a 'proper' SLR has interchangeable lenses, pentaprism or pentmirror and optical viewfinder. I know marketing departments are desperately trying the blur the boundaries though, and a compact with a lump on top and an EVF isn't fooling me.

[Ultuous]

dblack1 said:

There seems to be a few misconceptions about what a SLR actually is. before the coming of SLRs (single lens reflex) there were twin lens reflex cameras. The twin lens cameras had 2 different lenses, 1 for the film, and 1 for viewing. Almost all modern cameras are technically SLRs (the same lens views and exposes). Today it is commonplace to refer to a camera that can interchange lenses as a SLR. Generally a camera that is labeled an SLR today has a large sensor and a lens interchange system

It's splitting hairs (and after a few drinks in my case!), but surely to be labelled SLR, a camera has to have a mirror or prism system to provide the 'Reflex'? - i.e a compact or Micro Four Thirds camera with no through-the-lens optical viewfinder isn't an SLR technically speaking!

[Ultuous]

Simpo Two said:

Some may split hairs but to me a 'proper' SLR has interchangeable lenses, pentaprism or pentmirror and optical viewfinder.

Ooops... Beaten to it!

[The_Jackal]

Isn't the Nikon D3100 supposed to be a pretty good buy these days, and with this combo of discounts well under budget.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nikon-d3100-with-1...

[RobDickinson]

D3100 is better than a 1000D I think but nikons work quite differently to canons, even down to how the lens mounts, if you already have and use a canon its likely best you stick with the brand, you donthave to but it will allow sharing of lenses, flashes etc later.

[dblack1]

Simpo Two said:

And a viewing system that allows you to look through the lens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-lens_reflex_ca...

Whilst any £49 compact uses the same lens to view and compose, I would hesitate to call it an SLR...!

Some may split hairs but to me a 'proper' SLR has interchangeable lenses, pentaprism or pentmirror and optical viewfinder. I know marketing departments are desperately trying the blur the boundaries though, and a compact with a lump on top and an EVF isn't fooling me.

Its kinda funny that you should link to that article, on the first line it says "typically uses a semi-automatic moving mirror system that permits the photographer to see exactly what will be captured by the film or digital imaging system". the key word there is typically. in the twin reflex days a SLR was a high end camera, and ever since the term has been used to identify high end cameras. Many photography enthusiasts dont like hearing compact or bridge cameras being called SLRs, but that doesnt change the definition. The advantages of todays "SLRs" over the compacts are the larger sensor (the sensor on the canon is more than double the size of the one on the fuji) the interchangeable lens system, and advanced controls (in most cases).

After writing this, I have realized how dumb i am. this is a Toe-Mate-O/Toe-Mot-O conversation, it doesnt mater whos right, there will always be people on both sides of the fence on this. And in the spectrum of things, it doesnt matter what its refered to as.

[wackojacko]

Wow Great response guys

I've just been looking at a 450D with 70-220mm lens kit and case and 8gb memory card for £480 anythoughts ?
450D or 1000D ?

[Dogsey]

wackojacko said:

Wow Great response guys

I've just been looking at a 450D with 70-220mm lens kit and case and 8gb memory card for £480 anythoughts ?
450D or 1000D ?

450D. Although the 70-220 isn't exactly ideal for an everyday walkabout lens.

Or have a look at at MPB Photographic and their range of secondhand kit, you could probably get a 40D & 18-55IS for the same sort of money.

[markmullen]

The Argos clearance store on eBay was knocking out 450d and 18-55 IS packages for £370 not long ago, stunning value.

[wackojacko]

Havnt quite found £370 but £395 is still a great deal.
http://www.tradecamerasonline.com/product.asp?Prod...

[dblack1]

Dogsey said:

wackojacko said:

Or have a look at at MPB Photographic and their range of secondhand kit, you could probably get a 40D & 18-55IS for the same sort of money.

Ive expressed my feelings about secondhand camera bodies on here before, but i have not explained. I am not a big fan of secondhand camera bodies. As a camera gets older, pixels will go bad (esp if the sensor stays dirty for a long amount of time) and most cameras have a feature where they will automatically correct these pixels by averaging the pixels in the surrounding area. The shutter is also very fragile, and the used camera your looking at has likely been cycled nearly a million times. just remember, your probably gonna get what you pay for (as are many things in life).