Martial Arts / Self Defense
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I think theres a thread about this in the sports forum, but the rule is that the style is a lot less important than the person practicing it. Find out whats near you, look for recommendations of the instructors, go along (most places will offer a few free trial lessons) and see what suits you.
There are a lot of bulls
t artists out there running classes with no credentials and no ability - places like the Matt Fiddes schools for example. These sort of places are commonly referred to as McDojos.
There are a lot of bulls
t artists out there running classes with no credentials and no ability - places like the Matt Fiddes schools for example. These sort of places are commonly referred to as McDojos.Yes do it.
Krav Maga if taught well is both a good workout and extremely effective as a martila art, I wouldn't even really call it a martial art in the bowing sh*t sense. I've done aikido for years but Krav is a hell of a lot more dangerous.
There is no dress code, no ceremony, no kneeling just very simple techniques for putting anyone stupid enough to attack you in a wheel chair.
The SAS use it, what more proof do you need.
Krav Maga if taught well is both a good workout and extremely effective as a martila art, I wouldn't even really call it a martial art in the bowing sh*t sense. I've done aikido for years but Krav is a hell of a lot more dangerous.
There is no dress code, no ceremony, no kneeling just very simple techniques for putting anyone stupid enough to attack you in a wheel chair.
The SAS use it, what more proof do you need.
Badgerboy said:
Found a Krav Maga place quite near by, would seem pretty ideal. Any thoughts/experiences on this style?
http://www.krav-maga-uk.com/find_a_krav_maga_instr...If you're lucky enough to live in or near Acton, get along to Nick Maison's class: he's very good indeed.
Animal said:
Badgerboy said:
Found a Krav Maga place quite near by, would seem pretty ideal. Any thoughts/experiences on this style?
http://www.krav-maga-uk.com/find_a_krav_maga_instr...If you're lucky enough to live in or near Acton, get along to Nick Maison's class: he's very good indeed.
)It is VERY hard work if, like me, you are not of a good relative fitness.
Carrot said:
Animal said:
Badgerboy said:
Found a Krav Maga place quite near by, would seem pretty ideal. Any thoughts/experiences on this style?
http://www.krav-maga-uk.com/find_a_krav_maga_instr...If you're lucky enough to live in or near Acton, get along to Nick Maison's class: he's very good indeed.
)It is VERY hard work if, like me, you are not of a good relative fitness.
andy_s said:
I started KM for similar reasons, a 2hr sweaty work-out indeed. From a self-defense point of view I also rate it - very non-bull. Firmly rec'd.
That is what I loved about it. Having done Judo as a kid, Karate for 3 years, a bit of Ju-Jitsu and Aikido in the middle, I almost wished I could have just started and done a full round of Krav.No bulls
t, no "chi" or any other mystical crap, no bowing to some dead dude to having to count in japanese, Just practical, usable self defence and a hard workout with like minded people.Thinking about joining a group again closer to home when I lose a bit more weight and get fit again (on target for a couple of months time the way things are going
)+6 on the Krav Maga, have been doing it for several months now and enjoying it very much!
As said, you'll have pain in places you didn't know you could have pain in.
I have a desk job, but to go and "work" or "move" a couple of days after the first lessons would have been very ambitious on my part.
But it betters every lesson and now I hardly feel soar after a lesson. A lot depends on who is teaching, learning techniques for an hour isn't that tiring, "sparring" for 10 minutes however, is!
As said, you'll have pain in places you didn't know you could have pain in.
I have a desk job, but to go and "work" or "move" a couple of days after the first lessons would have been very ambitious on my part.
But it betters every lesson and now I hardly feel soar after a lesson. A lot depends on who is teaching, learning techniques for an hour isn't that tiring, "sparring" for 10 minutes however, is!
Like I said way back its all to do with the teaching.
One of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
One of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
TheCoolerKing said:
Like I said way back its all to do with the teaching.
One of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
I agree... but tbhOne of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
1) You've got a real problem if any street situation goes on more than 30 seconds and probably should join a running club.
2) I'd rather the teacher didn't waste my time doing fitness training that I could do elsewhere and instead give me what I am paying him for.
ShadownINja said:
TheCoolerKing said:
Like I said way back its all to do with the teaching.
One of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
I agree... but tbhOne of the principals is fitness more importantly, endurance. what's the point of getting into a situation where you are attacked and get out of breath in the first 2 minutes.
The one I go to involves 10 minutes of really intense cardio, running, jumping, squats, etc none stop, some guys are over weight and sit it out, kinda defeats the object for me but hey, if the training is good you might even feel the need to give up some cardio at the gym.
I remember the next day after session one I had to take the lift at work for the first time in 2 years.
1) You've got a real problem if any street situation goes on more than 30 seconds and probably should join a running club.
2) I'd rather the teacher didn't waste my time doing fitness training that I could do elsewhere and instead give me what I am paying him for.
ShadownINja said:
2) I'd rather the teacher didn't waste my time doing fitness training that I could do elsewhere and instead give me what I am paying him for.
That was exactly my attitude when I first went, but I found that the workouts are for a bit of phys, yes, but it's not the main aim; that's both to loosen off/warm up and also to increase tiredness to increase 'stress' in a situation.One of the aspects I like about Krav is that it recognises that fighting is stressful. Some of the multiple attacker stuff isn't to teach you how to dispose of 5 Bond henchmen with your bare hands but rather to get you used to being aware of what's around you when your stressed and trying to use techniques instinctivly rather than deliberately. What is always stressed is also anticipating an attack or problem and how to deal with it before it escalates, primarily by running away...
If it were target shooting it would be the 'combat pistol' variety.
All in my very humble etc.
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