Advice on star trails
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mathewb

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301 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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Now is aan opportune time to get some star trail photos, but what is the best way to go about this?
1. Take a 60+ minute single exposure?
2. Take lots of shorter exposures and stack them? (I don't know how to do this I've only heard it mentioned)

Is approach #1 bad for the camera at all? Presuming leaving it in the cold for an hour can't be the best thing in the world you can do for it and you risk the lens frosting over...

nellyleelephant

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263 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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I think Deep Sky Stacker is used for this, may even be free too (pretty sure it is)

I'm just starting this myself, so can't really help on this. I did just recently attend an astrophotography imaging day, I'll try and look at the DVD we were given this evening. Seem to remember that lots of individual shots was better than one long one, but could be wrong.

A good alignment on Polaris was important too.

Gemm

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Wednesday 8th December 2010
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AndWhyNot

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228 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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Gemm said:
My thoughts entirely

AndWhyNot

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228 months

Wednesday 8th December 2010
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nellyleelephant said:
I think Deep Sky Stacker is used for this, may even be free too (pretty sure it is)

I'm just starting this myself, so can't really help on this. I did just recently attend an astrophotography imaging day, I'll try and look at the DVD we were given this evening. Seem to remember that lots of individual shots was better than one long one, but could be wrong.

A good alignment on Polaris was important too.
Star trails depend on the camera staying still and the stars appearing to rotate; astro photography often uses a motorised tripod head to track the stars. Don't know Deep Sky Stacker but sounds more like a tool for stacking cumulative rather than additive images. Whether there's any practical difference between Deep Sky Stacker and startrails.exe (from http://www.startrails.de/ ) I don't know.

nellyleelephant

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Wednesday 8th December 2010
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AndWhyNot said:
nellyleelephant said:
I think Deep Sky Stacker is used for this, may even be free too (pretty sure it is)

I'm just starting this myself, so can't really help on this. I did just recently attend an astrophotography imaging day, I'll try and look at the DVD we were given this evening. Seem to remember that lots of individual shots was better than one long one, but could be wrong.

A good alignment on Polaris was important too.
Star trails depend on the camera staying still and the stars appearing to rotate; astro photography often uses a motorised tripod head to track the stars. Don't know Deep Sky Stacker but sounds more like a tool for stacking cumulative rather than additive images. Whether there's any practical difference between Deep Sky Stacker and startrails.exe (from http://www.startrails.de/ ) I don't know.
Actually, I think you may be right! The program I mentioned can be used to effectively produce impressive widefield deep sky images with camera alone. It stacks the multiple images to produce greater detail. Something I shall be trying tonight if the sky clears as it's forecast too!

mathewb

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301 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Star Trails is putting together 250 10s exposures as I type this smile

It also has a feature for making a timelapse video, which would be awesome, if it worked. Can anyone recommend a freeware alternative please?

tog

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257 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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mathewb said:
you risk the lens frosting over...
Or, from experience, the whole camera... Just leave it out all night and let it defrost gradually.

RobDickinson

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283 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Stil not nailed one of these, had a few goes this year and got close...


mathewb

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Tuesday 14th December 2010
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My first attempt, last night. The tiny, very subtle streak in the lower left hand corner is a meteor


M-J-B

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279 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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mathewb said:
My first attempt, last night. The tiny, very subtle streak in the lower left hand corner is a meteor

Very good, what settings etc?

AndWhyNot

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228 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Decent result. Like the comp with the hint of foreground element. Be interested to hear settings too - unless you're shooting at equivalent to ISO800/ f/2.8 minimum light sensitivity I'd suggest the meteor is an iridium flare (reflection off a satellite). A meteor has to be mighty fierce to show up in star trails - sure they're bright but they're fast moving so don't burn on to the sensor in the same way stars do.

longun

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238 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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I would say it is a shooting star. There is a meteorite shower going on at the moment so loads about.

Very nice indeed and well executed considering your in a populated area biggrin

Rich K

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285 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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mathewb said:
It also has a feature for making a timelapse video, which would be awesome, if it worked.
I to am new to the star trails bug .... The video function worked for me
no idea what the setting were though.

Here's one of mine about 50 images stacked
still got a lot to learn
I used a torch to light the trees and a single exposure with flash to get me.


mathewb

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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M-J-B said:
mathewb said:
My first attempt, last night. The tiny, very subtle streak in the lower left hand corner is a meteor

Very good, what settings etc?
250 x 15seconds; ISO400, F2.8, 11mm

99% sure it is a meteor, as the point of the exercise was to capture one of the Geminids on Monday night.