Peugeot RCZ a design icon?

[Emeye]

bks, it's a TT rip-off with a 20/30/408 front grafted on.

But not according to Top Gear magazine who have made it their Coupe or the Year. Now I've not driven one, but have seem a few around and IMO it's an ugly TT clone.

[Emeye]

Just read a bit more and the citroën DS3 is the TG car of the year!!! WTF?! Have PSA stopped advertising with them or summat?

[Fittster]

What is your car of the year from a design perspective?

[hotmelt]

Black with black leather looks good

[LuS1fer]

In a very vague sense it looks like the TT but equally has a resemblance to the 206CC and Peugeots past. You may "see" a TT but if you analyse it, it's not really, any more than a 911 is a Beetle...

But even if it is, I haven't seen any patents on the design and do you honestly expect that if the TT is a success, no-one is going to cash in on the niche?

"Hi, I've had a 206, a 307 and a 308 but I really fancy a sporty coupe, Mr Peugeot dealer"
"Well go and buy an Audi TT then you berk, I have nothing to offer...oh wait, there's this RCZ..."

In that event, they should ban the Scirocco for copying the Volvo C30's hips and 480ES "concept" instead of remaining true to the actual Scirocco.

[Podie]

I've sat in one at a dealer - was quite cramped, although the boot space was good.

Mirrors are bloody awful barge boards though.

I lost interest when the sales bod started talking engines...

[hotmelt]

I driven Hdi, surprisingly good considering thp 200 is supposedly best to drive. Good feel and heavy steering, feeling of integrity, rear gets involved too.

[Emeye]

Fittster said:

What is your car of the year from a design perspective?

It was TG Coupe of the year - maybe it is the best Coupe to come out this year. My point is that in no way is it a design icon. It's TT-esque coupe. The 911 is a design icon. The original TT was a design icon. Not this Peugeot.

Whether you like it or not, the RCZ is not a design icon, it's just a nice coupe.

No way is the DS3 car of the year - it's an average car with a bit of forced design.

[sh010272]

Think the design is very current but it's no classic. My view is that it will age pretty quickly.

[Negative Creep]

Would have been nice if it weren't for that horrendous front end

[Chicane-UK]

I know they have been slated for being a shameless TT ripoff, etc.. but I have to say it's about the first Peugeot I'd consider owning for quite some time! I think they're really striking and look excellent on the road.

Unfortunately Peugeot seem to have reasoned that because it looks like a TT, they can jack the price right up. So I think I'll pass.

[Dog Star]

I think they look excellent - "that" front end even manages to look ok too. From all other angles it's a winner IMO - very pretty.

[williamp]

But its a compromised design. have a look at the rear wings. Because its on a chassis which is too long, they have had to use basic styling techniques to disguise what would be a very long length of boring bodywork. Hence the doors which extend into the rear wing and the larger then necessary rear wheelarch. Without these, it would look too long.

Its a comprimised design based on a floorplan which is too long.

[nickphuket]

Negative Creep said:

Would have been nice if it weren't for that horrendous front end

But most of the Audis and a few other brands corporate looks are going for the wide mouthed tree frog look, bloody hideous IMHO

[cptsideways]

It's front wheel drive & about as much of a design icon as the Talbot Rancho

Edited by cptsideways on Tuesday 7th December 11:42

[300bhp/ton]

Emeye said:

Fittster said:

What is your car of the year from a design perspective?

It was TG Coupe of the year - maybe it is the best Coupe to come out this year. My point is that in no way is it a design icon. It's TT-esque coupe. The 911 is a design icon. The original TT was a design icon. Not this Peugeot.

Whether you like it or not, the RCZ is not a design icon, it's just a nice coupe.

No way is the DS3 car of the year - it's an average car with a bit of forced design.

Well done in justifying nothing

At least have a go at forming a comprehensive argument that goes some way beyond "my opinion that I hate it"

[300bhp/ton]

Maybe I need to go to Specsavers but to me this doesn't look like a TT at all, in fact not a single line of it.

It does, IMO look very good and original:



The only boarderline resemblance to the TT would be the basic 3 box shape if you removed all other lines but kept the rounded front.


And if anything I'd say there is more Cayman in the bloated arches and Nissan 370z in the roof line than Audi TT.

[pilchardthecat]

Peugeot destroyed Citroen, who were one of the most innovative and brilliant manufacturers, and I will never forgive them for it.

May they burn in hell for all eternity.

[LuS1fer]

pilchardthecat said:

Peugeot destroyed Citroen, who were one of the most innovative and brilliant manufacturers, and I will never forgive them for it.

May they burn in hell for all eternity.

Partly. They were also a commercial disaster. For a brief period in the 80s, Citroen benefited from sharing bits of Pug 205 and 106 for bean money. Indeed, I had a Visa 17D which was actually a very good car indeed at the time.

Sadly, all Peugeot have done is dragged Citroen down with their own dull range of rubbish and with a shedload of ugly MPVs. However, if the RCZ succeeds, I could see a Citroen spinoff. Ultimately, the game is about sales not leaking hydraulics and if the Citroen stuff was that good, in this day and age, surely they'd have developed it?

[Jimbo_vx]

i can't wait for the second hand ones.

I recon in a couple of years 10-12k will buy a perfectly good one.