The Northern Lights
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Rude-boy

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22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Due to a fit of madness and bloodymindedness we seem to have just booked a trip to go see the Northern Lights on Christmas Day - in Iceland.

The g/f, who can't post during the week, was wondering what we need to get for her 450D to be able to take the best pictures and an idea as to some good base settings.

She has a great eye for a picture but taking pics of racing cars and people is a little different to taking these sort of pictures. We're not expecting to take any prizes but likewise would like to think we will have some really good shots to remind us and, who knows, something that may even merit getting printed A1 size for one of the bedrooms.

I suspect there are more than a few on here who have already done similar and would be grateful of the head start. Likewise if there is any essential kit we should be buying please let us know. At the moment we only have the standard lens and an unreliable 300 lens with clear ND filters.

nick_bbb

5,497 posts

264 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Tripod

Rude-boy

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22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Good, sensible call.

I take it that we are talking long exposure times and that her mono will be a waste of time. Should have thought of that!!!

10JH

2,070 posts

223 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Might sound silly, but I'd recommend taking a little torch.

I was messing around a while ago taking long exposure shots and couldn't see the settings properly on the camera!

CVP

2,799 posts

304 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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nick_bbb said:
Tripod
He's not wrong you know smile Also try to get away from other light sources.

If in Reykjavik a good place to go is up at Perlan. Have a nice dinner watchign reykjavik slowly spin past, gulp at the size of the bill, set up the tripod outside, take your images and grab a cab home.

There are several good sites around for guidance but here is one worth reviewing
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The key is that the auroras can be quite dim in the sky so a good long exposure helps and hence the tripod requirement.

Chris

Rude-boy

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Monday 22nd November 2010
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Great, thanks.

At the minute we have a planned trip out into the island on Christmas day to get away from the other light sources. Boxing Day will see us in the Blue Lagoon and then we will have a day to walk around the town and by the sea.

Obviously we are risking it a bit with the time of year and eating out but we hope to find enough places about and over the next few days I'll be calling round a little to see if there is somewhere to go for lunch on Christmas Day other than a few packets of peanuts from the hotel mini-bar.

CVP

2,799 posts

304 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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If all else fails there is the bloke who sells hotdogs down near the ferry terminal - with everything on they're great, although my taste judgement could have been somewhat beer impaired.

I think Perlan is something like www.perlan.is as a web link.


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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Kit lens + tripod + cable release should get you soem good shots.

Make sure focus is set properly and stick it into bulb mode.

TallMark

596 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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A tripod is good advice, but make sure you don't just buy the cheapest. I took a cheapie with me to Sweden, and it shattered the plastic in the cold. The torch is also very handy, make sure you can use it in gloves though, and watch out for condensation when taking your camera indoors after being out in the cold for a while.

Aside from that I got ok results with just a really basic setup. The lights come out very well by camera, more vivid than they appear by eye. It's worth making sure you know all the settings on your camera well. I didn't, and could have got better shots if I'd known a little more about how to operate my camera at the time.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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CVP said:
I think Perlan is something like www.perlan.is as a web link.
Ace place that! Loved my time in Reykjavik even if it was only for a few days

Stu R

21,641 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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Get a head torch with a red LED as well as white, and get used to using the red. Stops you losing your night vision if you're somewhere remote / dark. Handy for astronomy stuff as well as night photography.

MartinP

1,275 posts

267 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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The cold can reduce the number of shots you get out of the battery, so having a spare kept in a pocket close to your body would be handy.

I hear solar activity is at the peak of its cycle this winter, so as long as you have clear skies you have a great chance of seeing the Northern Lights. Good luck!

ViperDave

5,775 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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If its a once in a lifetime opportunity to get these pictures, id take along a laptop to look at them properly after taking a few test shots, nothing more frustrating than spending a night taking loads of photos ruined by something that you don't notice through the view finder because its too dim and you miss on the camera screen because its too small. With long exposures that faint reflection you cant see or some other light source can have a massive impact on the image.

You can also use the laptop as a remote shutter release (providing the battery holds out in the cold)

Also as has been said, learn the settings you will need on the camera before you go, you will also likely need to know how to manually focus the lens as i have found on my 550 with kit lenses, it really cant focus in the dark, again another reason to have the ability to review the images properly at the time.

Dogsey

4,301 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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Taking a slightly different line of suggestions from everyone else:

Luck and bucket loads of it!

My aunt has been to northern Norway three times now on trips to see the northern lights, two of those trips Patrick Moore was with them. She is still yet to see them!

I'm sure you two will have fun anyway, whether you see the lights or not. biggrin

Rude-boy

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262 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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Thanks for all the ideas guys. Really helpful!

I know we are chancing it with the weather but that's always the call unless you live there!

We have both always wanted to go to see them and if the weather isn't kind to us we will try again. At the moment there is an ice hotel in Romania we were going to go to (as well as Dracula's castle) until we saw this holiday so we might have to scratch that again next year and go to the one in Sweden if we miss the lights this year. As another poster has said though apparently the next 24 months will be the best conditions for many years to come. We also have a spare day where the only thing planned is a meal at Perlan (very polite and quick response to my e-mail to them and they even deal with veggies!)

So far we have to get a tripod, remote and red filtered torch. Sounds like we should also get a spare battery as well for the camera and it sounds like we'd be advised to get one of the £200 notebooks they are selling down the road from my office to check the pics on - We've been meaning to sort something like that for our travels as our 'normal' lappys are a bit expensive and bulky for carting around the place, not to mention that they both have seen better days battery wise!
If we were going to spend £200 on a lens what should we be looking for?

4Lmike

1,910 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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RobDickinson said:
Make sure focus is set properly and stick it into bulb mode.
How are you supposed to set the focus in these situations?

GetCarter

31,255 posts

308 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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Spend from now till then praying it's not cloudy!

Hub

7,131 posts

227 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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TallMark said:
A tripod is good advice, but make sure you don't just buy the cheapest. I took a cheapie with me to Sweden, and it shattered the plastic in the cold.
And cheap ones wobble slightly in any wind, making images less sharp at best and possibly unusable on long exposures. I know for experience with my £25 one.

Dr Jekyll

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290 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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4Lmike said:
RobDickinson said:
Make sure focus is set properly and stick it into bulb mode.
How are you supposed to set the focus in these situations?
Infinity ought to be near enough, or far enough, whatever.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd November 2010
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This, one of many sites is seems, may be helpful.

http://www.alaskaphotographics.com/how_to_photogra...

A wide angle lens would seem to be a good idea. They cost a bit .... unless .....

You consider the Samyang 16mm f2.8 which is available new for under £300.

It's manual only - but that won't matter at all for your purpose. In fact it may be a benefit - no drain on the battery for a start.

More information here.

http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/533-samyang14f28...

HTH.



Edited by LongQ on Tuesday 23 November 13:39