Woman confronts vandal child's parents, ends up in court
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Woman and husband catch ratboy breaking window (again), march him back to his parents who (presumbly) are disinterested. Get irate with ratboy parents (understandably), ratboy parents call police, woman ends up in court.
Un f
king believable!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
[i] A mother who tackled a teenage vandal by driving him to his parents' home has been fined for breaching the peace.
Lynne Donnelly, 39, caught the youngster after he and his friend smashed a window in the common close outside her home in Perth.
But she was arrested after the 13-year-old's parents called the police.
Donnelly admitted breaching the peace and was fined £600. Her partner Maxwell Brown, 31, admitted assaulting the boy and was fined £200.
The breach of the peace charge was brought because Donelly forced the boy to accompany her and was shouting and swearing.
Perth Sheriff Court heard that Brown rushed out of his home on the evening of 13 May when he heard a smashing noise and discovered the broken window.
One boy had run off, but Brown grabbed the 13-year-old by his top and pulled him.
'Little remorse'
Donnelly ordered the boy to clean up the broken glass before ushering him into the couple's car and driving him to his parent's house.
Fiscal depute Rebecca Kynaston said Donnelly told his parents what their son had done, but ended up shouting at them because she was frustrated by their response.
Solicitor John McLaughlin, defending Donnelly, said: "The window has been smashed on a number of occasions and had to be replaced. It was toughened glass so not easily broken.
"She went down to get hold of the boy. He was wearing a hoodie and smoking and she believed he was a late teenager. When she saw he was younger she thought it inappropriate to call police."
Mr McLaughlin said Donnelly hoped the boy's parents would tell him off as he had shown little remorse for his actions.
He added: "She thought this would be a way of not getting them a record, but it has ended up with her in court."
Sheriff Lindsay Foulis told Donnelly he could understand her frustration, but said she had "totally lost the plot".
Speaking outside court, Donnelly said: "It is ridiculous that I am in court at all. I was sick to death of my door getting smashed. These kids just keep on coming in.
She added: "I was totally shocked when the police turned up and even they said they were surprised and couldn't believe it.
"The whole justice system is a joke. They smashed my window but nothing happens to them."
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Woman and husband catch ratboy breaking window (again), march him back to his parents who (presumbly) are disinterested. Get irate with ratboy parents (understandably), ratboy parents call police, woman ends up in court.
Un f
king believable! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
[i] A mother who tackled a teenage vandal by driving him to his parents' home has been fined for breaching the peace.
Lynne Donnelly, 39, caught the youngster after he and his friend smashed a window in the common close outside her home in Perth.
But she was arrested after the 13-year-old's parents called the police.
Donnelly admitted breaching the peace and was fined £600. Her partner Maxwell Brown, 31, admitted assaulting the boy and was fined £200.
The breach of the peace charge was brought because Donelly forced the boy to accompany her and was shouting and swearing.
Perth Sheriff Court heard that Brown rushed out of his home on the evening of 13 May when he heard a smashing noise and discovered the broken window.
One boy had run off, but Brown grabbed the 13-year-old by his top and pulled him.
'Little remorse'
Donnelly ordered the boy to clean up the broken glass before ushering him into the couple's car and driving him to his parent's house.
Fiscal depute Rebecca Kynaston said Donnelly told his parents what their son had done, but ended up shouting at them because she was frustrated by their response.
Solicitor John McLaughlin, defending Donnelly, said: "The window has been smashed on a number of occasions and had to be replaced. It was toughened glass so not easily broken.
"She went down to get hold of the boy. He was wearing a hoodie and smoking and she believed he was a late teenager. When she saw he was younger she thought it inappropriate to call police."
Mr McLaughlin said Donnelly hoped the boy's parents would tell him off as he had shown little remorse for his actions.
He added: "She thought this would be a way of not getting them a record, but it has ended up with her in court."
Sheriff Lindsay Foulis told Donnelly he could understand her frustration, but said she had "totally lost the plot".
Speaking outside court, Donnelly said: "It is ridiculous that I am in court at all. I was sick to death of my door getting smashed. These kids just keep on coming in.
She added: "I was totally shocked when the police turned up and even they said they were surprised and couldn't believe it.
"The whole justice system is a joke. They smashed my window but nothing happens to them."
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EDLT said:
One sided story. The Sheriff (Scotland has those?!) said she had lost the plot, so I'm guessing her actions were a little more extreme than the rest of the article makes out.
yes i'm sure the poor lamb had his feelings hurt. still what stopped him being prosected for the window?if some people dragged me back to my house in that way for vandalism I would have had seven bells kicked out of me by my father and been made to pay them the money for repairs. He would have appologised and been embarresed.
I imagine they did lose their tempers when more likely than not greated with hostility rather than an appology.
Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 2nd November 22:52
Ari said:
Precisely!! If you don't want people shouting and swearing at you, don't have a ratboy child out smashing windows for fun! It's called reasonable consiquences. And as has been said, where is the child's punishment in all this, where's the parents being made to pay for the window?
Chavs don't punish their kids, they buy them maccie-Ds insted.woman in court said:
I was sick to death of my door getting smashed. These kids just keep on coming in.
I hope it wasn't her back door sniggerOh dear, I think I've been spending too much time in the lounge!
Anyway this is pretty shocking - surely any reasonable policeman would look at the situation (at least as presented in the article) and defuse it there and then, calm everyone down make the scrote apologise, maybe put the fear of god into the little s
t at the same time and that should be the end of it.KaraK said:
woman in court said:
I was sick to death of my door getting smashed. These kids just keep on coming in.
I hope it wasn't her back door sniggerOh dear, I think I've been spending too much time in the lounge!
Anyway this is pretty shocking - surely any reasonable policeman would look at the situation (at least as presented in the article) and defuse it there and then, calm everyone down make the scrote apologise, maybe put the fear of god into the little s
t at the same time and that should be the end of it.I recieved a punch to the jaw from a neighbour a few years ago and called the Police to make them aware of the situation in case there were any repercussions. I didn't want anything 'done' about it, but to cut a long story short they logged it as an assault, interviewed me and the perp' twice each and called at the house at ridiculous times of the night.
I recieved a letter from them a few months later saying they'd 'solved' the crime. Box ticked!
And the time where they charged me for not handing my insurance documents in to the station because the documents had lost their way to me in the post so I went to the station within the time allocated to me to explain the situation to them that the doc's were on their way but may be a little late due to circumstances beyind my control. Again, a few weeks later, letter in the post saying 'crime solved'. Another box ticked and nothing of any consequence actualy done.
Meh!
I agree with the feeling on most posters that the wrong persons were prosecuted.
Just a foot note. This was not in the BBC's report.
Just a foot note. This was not in the BBC's report.
The Courier said:
Sheriff Lindsay Foulis told Donnelly that he appreciated the frustration she must have felt but added that she had simply gone too far.
He said her own record for breaching the peace and acts of violence — albeit the last was in 2004 — meant he was unable to deal with the matter by anything other than a significant financial penalty.
He said her own record for breaching the peace and acts of violence — albeit the last was in 2004 — meant he was unable to deal with the matter by anything other than a significant financial penalty.
Guam said:
Cue Von Hosen to appear, telling us how we have it all wrong and there is undoubtedly good cause for the prosecution and the woman took the law into her hands, when she appears to have behaved like any normal responsible citizen, when confronted by this!! 
It's time the Labour Politicians aka Senior Police were sluiced out of the barn and replaced with proper coppers.
colonel c said:
I agree with the feeling on most posters that the wrong persons were prosecuted.
Just a foot note. This was not in the BBC's report.
I thought that prior convictions were irrelevant and only the facts for the case being heard were taken into account?Just a foot note. This was not in the BBC's report.
The Courier said:
Sheriff Lindsay Foulis told Donnelly that he appreciated the frustration she must have felt but added that she had simply gone too far.
He said her own record for breaching the peace and acts of violence — albeit the last was in 2004 — meant he was unable to deal with the matter by anything other than a significant financial penalty.
He said her own record for breaching the peace and acts of violence — albeit the last was in 2004 — meant he was unable to deal with the matter by anything other than a significant financial penalty.
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