Tarka Dhal
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BatleyBoy

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249 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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I can't seem to get the lentils soft enough when I cook a Tarka Dhal.

I don't want to have to pressure cook then or boil them for hours either.

Any suggestions for a lentil that will do the job relatively quickly?

Cheers. BB.

Shaw Tarse

31,875 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Tarka Dhal like a chicken dhal only a little otter?

Bullett

11,168 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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BatleyBoy said:
relatively quickly?
I think that's your problem - long and slow is the key.

RichB

56,124 posts

312 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
Tarka Dhal like a chicken dhal only a little otter?
Boom boom..

Ray Singh

3,078 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Buy Red lentils (not the polished type) from a good brand. Either TRS or Natco.
Simmer them for about 30 mins.

Good luck.

BatleyBoy

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Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Ray Singh said:
Buy Red lentils (not the polished type) from a good brand. Either TRS or Natco.
Simmer them for about 30 mins.

Good luck.
Have tried the red lentils (Natco) twice now and they make a lot of difference as they soften up much quicker. Thanks for the suggestion.

Just trying to sort out the best spice mix for the Tarka bit now!

Cheers. BB.

Mobile Chicane

21,966 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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BatleyBoy said:
Ray Singh said:
Buy Red lentils (not the polished type) from a good brand. Either TRS or Natco.
Simmer them for about 30 mins.

Good luck.
Have tried the red lentils (Natco) twice now and they make a lot of difference as they soften up much quicker. Thanks for the suggestion.

Just trying to sort out the best spice mix for the Tarka bit now!

Cheers. BB.
I use 1tsp toasted cumin seeds (whole), a clove of garlic (crushed), a red chilli (chopped fine inc. seeds), all sweated together with a large onion (finely chopped) in butter until dark brown.

Do experiment with other pulses though - chick peas and yellow split peas work well but have to be soaked overnight.

Oh, and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to the cooking water.

cslgirl

2,215 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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I made some recently to add to a dansak I made. Have a look at www.cr0.co.uk (curry recipes online). I got the recipe from there.

BatleyBoy

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Thursday 16th December 2010
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So here is the problem.....after cooking the mix of spices in oil I add to the dhal but it sends the colour too brown for my liking. I really want the add spice / heat to the dhal, but retain that golden colour of the dhal. I presume its either the ground cumin, garam masala or corriander powder thats affecting the colour?

Any suggestions on the mix of spices to keep the golden colour?

Cheers. BB.

Bullett

11,168 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Tumeric

ChrisnChris

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250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Adding salt before the lentils are cooked will also lengthen the cooking time

BatleyBoy

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Thursday 16th December 2010
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Bullett said:
Tumeric
I do add Tumeric to the spice mix....but as I said I reckon its the cumion, garam masala or corriander powder that maybe darkening it.

Mobile Chicane

21,966 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.

BatleyBoy

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Thursday 16th December 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.
What's the issue with the garam masala and ground corriander then?

Mobile Chicane

21,966 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.
What's the issue with the garam masala and ground corriander then?
I think it's better without. People who know nothing about Indian food stick garam masala in everything - nono

Try another variation on the recipe here - probably closest to what you would get in a good curry house.

BatleyBoy

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Thursday 16th December 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.
What's the issue with the garam masala and ground corriander then?
I think it's better without. People who know nothing about Indian food stick garam masala in everything - nono

Try another variation on the recipe here - probably closest to what you would get in a good curry house.
Mate, I live in the middle of a MASSIVE asian community (some schools are 90% + asian) and they use garam masala all the time. In fact the best curry recipe I have is from a local asian lass at my wifes work and it has garam masala in it!
Any hows I will try my dhal dish without it next time and report back!
Cheers. Simon

Mobile Chicane

21,966 posts

240 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.
What's the issue with the garam masala and ground corriander then?
I think it's better without. People who know nothing about Indian food stick garam masala in everything - nono

Try another variation on the recipe here - probably closest to what you would get in a good curry house.
Mate, I live in the middle of a MASSIVE asian community (some schools are 90% + asian) and they use garam masala all the time. In fact the best curry recipe I have is from a local asian lass at my wifes work and it has garam masala in it!
Any hows I will try my dhal dish without it next time and report back!
Cheers. Simon
I'm from Southall, originally. It's mostly Punjabi / Gujerati round there so maybe the use of GM is a regional thing: I was always told that GM goes in a curry at the end, and that's it - the idea being that it's hot in your stomach and not in your mouth.

BatleyBoy

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2,036 posts

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Thursday 16th December 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
BatleyBoy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Split peas will give the 'yellowest' result, however these need to be soaked overnight before cooking.

Cover with water and add a teaspoon of ground turmeric to this.

NB: You do not want to be putting garam masala or ground coriander in dhal, imvvho. Also leave the cumin seeds whole.
What's the issue with the garam masala and ground corriander then?
I think it's better without. People who know nothing about Indian food stick garam masala in everything - nono

Try another variation on the recipe here - probably closest to what you would get in a good curry house.
Mate, I live in the middle of a MASSIVE asian community (some schools are 90% + asian) and they use garam masala all the time. In fact the best curry recipe I have is from a local asian lass at my wifes work and it has garam masala in it!
Any hows I will try my dhal dish without it next time and report back!
Cheers. Simon
I'm from Southall, originally. It's mostly Punjabi / Gujerati round there so maybe the use of GM is a regional thing: I was always told that GM goes in a curry at the end, and that's it - the idea being that it's hot in your stomach and not in your mouth.
Yes I would agree with that to be honest, its used a lot as an addition later on in the cooking to thicken up the sauce a little. However it is used one way othr another in a lot of dishes.
Anyway I will try my tarka next time without it and see how we get one.
Cheers for now. Simon.

Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

263 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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Surely you need a pressure cooker of some sort?

Sorry, despite being Indian I know little or nothing about Indian cooking but my mum and my wife both have these.

pp

Asterix

24,438 posts

256 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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Pressure cooker is petty much the way to do it - my MiL is South Indian, vegi and seems to exist on lentil based stuff. Everything is done with a pressure cooker.