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Tuscan Rat

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3,276 posts

252 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Can someone advise me of some decent (but not too expensive) photo editing software to purchase for my son ??

He has arrived to stay with me this weekend all full of beans as he has found something at last that he is interested in. He is 14 and has now been doing the photography club at school etc and his Mother and her side are going to buy him a Cannon 500D for his Christmas present. Reading the reviews this appears to be a good camera and he has informed me of all the gadgets it has and what he can do with it.

Anyway now with a bit of history, back to the topic. Can anyone recommend some decent software to compliment this camera?

Simpo Two

92,766 posts

294 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Photoshop Elements. If money is an issue, I just sold two disks (v5.0) on eBay for £12.00.

AndyFoo

1,432 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Get a trial version of Photoshop, see how you get on with it.

If you're on a Mac, Aperture is their own photo editing software and I find it very good.

If you want a free, quite easy to use bit of kit, Irfanview is available for PC.

Regards the camera, good solid choice. From there he'll be able to build up an accessories and len base which can be used across the EOS range. Normally when one starts out in photography, the brand they start with is the brand they stick with. Some people will disagree but due to the cost of lenses and bodies it's normally a choice you only make once.

jimmy156

3,834 posts

216 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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A 500d at 14! lucky kid! Photoshop elements is the way to go, you can get the latest version ( Version 9.0 ) for about £77 or as suggested above you could pick up an earlier version for much less on ebay.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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The Canon comes with Zoombrowser (Download management, general photo browser and photo editor), some other utilities and I think DPP which is Canon's software for Pro users needing RAW file conversion. There are some functions available that will, currently, afaik, only work with the Canon software although it's probable that your son won;t be getting into those early in his ownership - unless he gets into very long exposure stuff or is in the habit of changing lenses in a very dusty environment.

These programs are more capable than many people will acknowledge. They are, however, primarily photo editors whereas products like Photoshop and its derivatives come from a graphics editing background - hence all the special 'arts' filters for making your photos look like, say, a painting by numbers experiment.

There are also a number of quite capable free editors around.

Your son may find that something like an additional lens (or money towards one) or a large capacity memory card or two, maybe a proper flash unit, would be even more interesting than the software.

Just a thought.

If you do go or the software option I think some of the vendors, Adobe for example, do some good 'education' deals. They certainly used to. Worth checking out. He will need a fairly good PC or Mac to run the latest versions of the 'market leading' software. And plenty of spare disk space for photo storage if he really gets into it.

HTH.

Lucas CAV

3,068 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Ultuous

2,291 posts

220 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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^^^

This - it will do most of what Photoshop will do for £0... Far better to put the cash towards lenses/ filters etc.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

203 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Tuscan Rat said:
photography club at school
What school is this?

JJM

469 posts

218 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Worth noting that if you're a student you can get up to 80% of photo shop or lightroom.

http://tryit.adobe.com/uk/cs5/student_teacher/?sdi...

https://store2.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index....

Currently I am on one of the photography evening classes at Hertford Regional College and a mate has just purchased CS5 and saved £500, not bad considering the course was only £80.

mojitomax

1,876 posts

221 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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photoshop elements student cheap price version or aperture student cheap price version if on a mac

Horns

323 posts

192 months

Saturday 30th October 2010
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Another vote for the GIMP from me. Why pay a penny when there's something that good for free?

Tuscan Rat

Original Poster:

3,276 posts

252 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Thankyou for all your advice. Would be a bit cruel to download something for free then give it to him for Christmas or maybe not scratchchin

I have had other advice and might head down the lens route.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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Canons software is fairly limited but very usefull.

I'd take Gimp + a 50mmf1.8 over photoshop any day tho.

(but I use photoshop...)

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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A quality bag to keep the kit in is another worthwhile option - makes it so much easier on a day out taking pics.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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other options...

cable release
filters (cpl, nd/grads)
tripod
books
printer and ink
flickr pro account etc

ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Tuesday 2nd November 2010
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RobDickinson said:
other options...

cable release
filters (cpl, nd/grads)
tripod
books
printer and ink
flickr pro account etc
cable release - do people still use these when self timers and mirror up exist?!
filters (cpl, nd/grads) - cpl maybe for landscapes but hardly necs - pretty well all other filters can be replicated in Photoshop or use HDR
tripod - nah, pita to lug around unless used for macro. hold the camera properly and/or change iso instead
books - nah with the exception of Mike Freeman stuff! kids are educated on-line by pod casts and you tube - both rich sources of everything
printer and ink - oh yes defo! And plenty of paper and consider some 'snap frames' I use them in the studio and study
flickr pro account - yup!

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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ian in lancs said:
RobDickinson said:
other options...

cable release
filters (cpl, nd/grads)
tripod
books
printer and ink
flickr pro account etc
cable release - do people still use these when self timers and mirror up exist?!
filters (cpl, nd/grads) - cpl maybe for landscapes but hardly necs - pretty well all other filters can be replicated in Photoshop or use HDR
tripod - nah, pita to lug around unless used for macro. hold the camera properly and/or change iso instead
books - nah with the exception of Mike Freeman stuff! kids are educated on-line by pod casts and you tube - both rich sources of everything
printer and ink - oh yes defo! And plenty of paper and consider some 'snap frames' I use them in the studio and study
flickr pro account - yup!
Hmm.

Cable release - yep. MLU and self timer are OK but not perfect and it's so much fun to play with the BULB setting.

Filters .... later. But if replicating in PS (et all) then shoot RAW.

Tripod ... see cable release and of course many other purposes. However something like a Gorillapod or beanbag type support may be more exciting for now. A cheap tripod could be useful for him to discover what it would allow him to do. You can get something basic and serviceable for about £15 or less from 7dayshop.

Books ... depends. Videos might be more appealing at this stage. That or a book of Fine Art nudes maybe. With lighting guides. A good classic photographic genre after all. smile

Printer and Ink - home printing is very expensive especially if there is a Tesco or Boots or some other facility nearby. It can also be incredibly frustrating without a lot of setup and kit to support the setup. Maybe later.

Flickr Pro account ... Dunno. I seem to have one but don't use it much. A PH account to join this forum though .... probably as good really.... wink

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Try shooting fireworks without a cable release and tripod biggrin

You can get away without either at times, other times you cant.

Colin RedGriff

2,541 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Adobe Lightroom is a good option (IMO) it is great for importing and cataloguing your photos. It has some basic manipulation tools and options for exporting to web pages slideshows etc

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Colin RedGriff said:
Adobe Lightroom is a good option (IMO) it is great for importing and cataloguing your photos. It has some basic manipulation tools and options for exporting to web pages slideshows etc
Should get it at the educational discount too ..... but then a 500D has some good applications included anyway.