Next body to step up to?
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RichTbiscuit

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3,266 posts

201 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Currently had the 40D for just over a year now. Was just window (ebay) shopping and wondering what would the next best reasonable body to step up to be.

I'm not sure if I want to take the step up to FF just yet as i'm still learning and getting used to the lenses I have on a crop sensor, plus I would have to replace my UWA for a FF one.

7D, or perhaps a 5d Mk 1 if i was going to take the FF plunge :/

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

239 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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I'm afraid I'm no mind reader, so I will be the first to ask - what sort of photography do you do and why do you think FF will benefit you?

Dogsey

4,301 posts

260 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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itsnotarace said:
I'm afraid I'm no mind reader, so I will be the first to ask - what sort of photography do you do and why do you think FF will benefit you?
Equally, what do you want to do that the 40D won't allow you to?

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

239 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Indeed smile

RichTbiscuit

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3,266 posts

201 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Well it's all a bit of everything at the moment as far as personal stuff is concerned.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rfmphotography/

However in the next little while I'm going to be going out with a couple of wedding photographers that I know as a third man just to get some more real world exposure and hopefully learn some hints/tips from some professionals.

Dogsey

4,301 posts

260 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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Nice photo's, I don't see anything there that the 40D struggles with and I certainly wouldn't have any qualms about shooting a wedding with a 40D.

flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

233 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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If there is no area where you feel your 40D could be better then I guess it comes down to the choice of what other features newer / other models would bring...

7D for video?
5D mk1 for Full Frame?

Or perhaps investing in lenses would be another option?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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I own a 7D and regulaly use a 40D.

40D is showing its age a bit thesedays, the LCD isnt that great and the button placement etc feels a bit old to me now but realy its still fine and the IQ is pretty good.

The 7D would give you more pixels/resolution, slightly better noise, better LCD, better viewfinder, better AF, flash comander, spirit level, video, quick menus and more customisation.

Its a nice upgrade but IMO not huge and money would be better spent on glass.

A 5D will get you a full frame goodness ( shallow DOF) and better IQ overall ( lower noise, better colour etc). You loose out on fps and autofocus and flash, lcd etc.

A 5D2 is a decent body still has rough AF and lower fps but superb IQ.

davidd

6,713 posts

314 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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I'm on a 40d and love it, I was ready to move to a 60d (before it was released) as I wanted video, better af etc.

I'm having trouble justifying the jump to a 7d even though I really want the video, remote flash, better af, lower noise, better high iso performance etc...

I might have to buy better glass first and hope the 7d comes down in price a bit, mind you when will it be replaced?

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RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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davidd said:
mind you when will it be replaced?
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Well its only a year or so old so guess about 3 years, end of 2012 about.

7D is an orsome beast tho.

curtisl

1,406 posts

236 months

Monday 4th October 2010
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RobDickinson said:
I own a 7D and regulaly use a 40D.

40D is showing its age a bit thesedays, the LCD isnt that great and the button placement etc feels a bit old to me now but realy its still fine and the IQ is pretty good.

The 7D would give you more pixels/resolution, slightly better noise, better LCD, better viewfinder, better AF, flash comander, spirit level, video, quick menus and more customisation.

Its a nice upgrade but IMO not huge and money would be better spent on glass.

A 5D will get you a full frame goodness ( shallow DOF) and better IQ overall ( lower noise, better colour etc). You loose out on fps and autofocus and flash, lcd etc.

A 5D2 is a decent body still has rough AF and lower fps but superb IQ.
What he said.

If you are looking for someone to say that the 7d is a good camera, then it gets my vote. I have had it for three weeks now and it impresses me everytime I use it. The staggering thing for me is the lack of noise at high ISO's. It just takes it in it's stride. I guess that will be handy for the non flash permitting areas in wedding photography. Another thing that I have found useful is you can zoom in on the liveview image and fine tune the focus to get it pin sharp. The other thing is the staggeringly quick 8fps, it doesn't help if you want to keep your shutter count down tho!

I could go on and on but I upgraded from a 400d so the contrast between the two cameras is a lot larger than what you would find coming from a 40d.

LMC

918 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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I've got a friend who does wedding photography and he uses a 550D and a 450D !

Personally I think it's more about the glass on the end. I would get a nice L series lens or 2 rather than changing bodies.

I've got a 40D and love it smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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I'd be upset if any pro came to do my wedding with a pair of xxxD bodies!

Ok the glass makes a lot of difference but croppers often cant produce clean enough or shallow enough DOF shots for some stuff, and they dont have things like dual card slots either.

All depends on style etc but it wouldnt make me happy , prehaps if there was a bag full of flahses and L primes along with them...

xrrr

440 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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I have had a 40D since March 2008 and for the first 18 months I looked at alternatives every 6 month or so.

A year ago I nearly bought a 5D2 but then had a reality check - body and new (L) lenses (to replace my EF-S lenses) was about £2500. So I kept the 40D and I am glad I did.

I also almost bought a 7D and then had another reality check that it would not make that much difference. Who needs extra AF points when I 90% of the time use the centre one, who needs a bigger LCD screen when all I look at is the histogram, who needs a bigger pixel count when 90% of my pictures are printed at 10x6 or viewed on a computer, etc etc.

If you are desperate to buy something, I bought the following two lenses and have been extremely happy and I am glad I bought the glass rather than the body:
  • EF-S 17-55 f2.8 IS
  • EF 70-200 f4 IS
I am currently considering an EF 70-200 f2.8 IS rather than a 7D as I *know* that the new body won't make me take better pictures! Admittedly the 40D is getting a bit long in the tooth in terms of LCD screen and wizzbang ad ons but it still takes great shots and I am not going to change it until it breaks (again - it broke 18 months ago and cost me £250 to repair).

RichTbiscuit

Original Poster:

3,266 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Thanks for the opinions folks. Currently I don't think my lenses are too shabby.

Tamron 10-24mm
Canon 24-70mm f2.8 L
Canon 70-200mm f4 L IS
Canon 1.4x extendermabob

If I went FF the only thing I would need to replace would be the UWA. I'm not in any great hurry to upgrade and I might just wait until I could pick up a second hand 7D for about £500 as they're still pretty pricey even second hand.

Plus I still have to persuade the missus wink

Edited by RichTbiscuit on Tuesday 5th October 09:12