Bahrain GP

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simpo two

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86,704 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Ferrari 1 and 2 on the grid - should I bother watching it or save the electricty?

ultimasimon

9,643 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Save the electricity. It's funny when this happens as it did when McClaren dominated a few years ago.

With all the driver aids becoming barred, and technology thwarted along with team tactics 'buying' the best drivers, there is little that could change, other that a nasty prang or an unexpected engine that let go.

There again that's why we watch it, isn't it?

Frik

13,547 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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All this talk of one team or another capable of beating Ferrari. It just goes to prove what a class outfit Ferrari are at the moment. Schummacher hasn't had an engine go on him for over 40 races...

Edited to say: this is the crux of course. Ferrari are so good it ends up just like an American film - you already know what is going to happen.

>> Edited by Frik on Sunday 4th April 00:44

simpo two

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86,704 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Maybe the other teams should copy what they did in Porky's and chain the Ferrari back axles to a lampost?

Or put them in Toyota Viruses as a handicap?

S'funny how we complain when one team/driver wins all the races - but does anyone mind if one football team wins all its matches? I guess it's not so processional.

murph7355

38,677 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Have to say I was amused when a drainage ditch was repaired as it caused 3 punctures. Despite it being on the kerbing!

Now, to my knowledge the black bit is the race track. The red and white horribly bumpy bit is where badgers are meant to be quite safe.

Ideas on how to spice F1 up:

1) Put tacks on all kerb edging.
2) Put fans (blade type!) by the track to blow sand on it at random. Even for the GB GP.
3) Scrap the current 1 car at a time qualifying and give drivers something to properly whine about when they wind up at the back of the grid.
4) Introduce a special "Coulthard penalty" and always dock him 10 places. What a complete knob he is.
5) Make racing a "dangerous thing to do" again. I'm not saying it's amusing watching people die, but...driving a car as fast as possible on a given route is a dangerous thing to do. It's why these chaps (chapettes) get paid rather a lot of money.

The only two driver aids required are grey matter between the ears and a right (and also left these days) foot that is articulated enough not to only work in binary mode,

There is no such thing as a dangerous circuit. Only a dangerous speed to go round a given circuit. And the true heroes of yesteryear were those that did not lift (Senna being the last of them IMO). Occasionally some of them mis-judged this and paid the price. Sad, but feck me did it make us realise that these guys were the real deal.

Nowadays, as seems to be the way with many walks of life, they seem to pay the money but not have it in the kahoona dept.


Frik

13,547 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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What about giving the team bosses pistols so they can shoot the drivers if they don't perform well?

ribol

11,507 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Lets face it, is simply isn't entertainment or sport anymore.
Surely in these days of computers they could write a program that you feed in Engine Power, Drag, G-Force and Driver History, press "enter" and get a winner. It would save a lot of time and petrol, the outcome would be the same 99% of the time.
Bring back the Mansell/Senna/Prost days.

Ivan

murph7355

38,677 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Frik - Ron Dennis and Norbert Haug have gone one better and they now provide a grenade for their drivers

Best interview of the weekend had to be with old Norb.

Paraphrasing, but asked whether they'd had another engine blow up he said no. Asked further what the problems were, he noted that Kimi had a misfire prior to the incident.

Forgive me Norbert, but which part of the car can suffer thus? The steering? The gearbox?

Further more, which part bursts into flames? Or causes the car to stop in clouds of luscious white smoke?

Admit it. You're making your car's engine out of the same material that your road cars' dashboards were made out of last year.

PS And is it just me, or is Louise Goodman proving to be an asset to the ITV crew these days?

Frik

13,547 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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murph7355 said:
Frik - Ron Dennis and Norbert Haug have gone one better and they now provide a grenade for their drivers

Best interview of the weekend had to be with old Norb.

Paraphrasing, but asked whether they'd had another engine blow up he said no. Asked further what the problems were, he noted that Kimi had a misfire prior to the incident.

Forgive me Norbert, but which part of the car can suffer thus? The steering? The gearbox?

Further more, which part bursts into flames? Or causes the car to stop in clouds of luscious white smoke?

Admit it. You're making your car's engine out of the same material that your road cars' dashboards were made out of last year.

PS And is it just me, or is Louise Goodman proving to be an asset to the ITV crew these days?

That interview was rather amusing wasn't it? I thought Ted K wasn't that good until I saw that. Louise G is always going to be seen as an asset when compared to that tw@t James Allen.

Just for the record, the SLR dashboard bit stumpy Richard Hammond rapped on Top Gear to demonstrate it's "plasticness" was in fact aluminium...

murph7355

38,677 posts

262 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Now that's engineering talent - how to make ali' feel just like plastic.

How far we have come in automotive engineering

maranellouk

2,066 posts

269 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Haa hAAA Haaaaa.

You are on form tonight Murph.

DJFish

5,961 posts

269 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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What are they going to do about the bubbly on the podium?

Isn't Bahrain a dry country. (were talking booze here not sand before you all start)

Eric Mc

122,687 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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As Mercedes supply the engine (or at least "badge" it), they obviously are reluctant to admit that it is the engine that is McLaren's fundamental problem.

Reminds me of the famous "oil leak" problem suffered by an Alfa Romeo turbo F1 car in the early 80s. When asked where the oil leak was, the team manager lifted a tarpaulin off the car to reveal a fist sized hole in the engine cover made by a departing cylinder. "Through that hole there", he said.

No booze on the podium for this one - as ordained by the Bahrain government. No grid girls either, apparently.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 4th April 09:07

Stuart

11,636 posts

257 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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DJFish said:
What are they going to do about the bubbly on the podium?

Isn't Bahrain a dry country. (were talking booze here not sand before you all start)


No champagne, but a fizzy mix of pomegranate (sp?), lemon juice adn something else, in a bottle which looks just like champagne.

simpo two

Original Poster:

86,704 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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murph7355 said:
Ideas on how to spice F1 up

One thing that made me laugh out loud was the trailer for the F1 season (also used last year) showing a mythical Barrichello coming into the pits. While they did the tyres and fuel, he got out, was spun round a few times by the mechanics in the 'spin box' and then lurched back to the car.

And let us not forget this from www.sniffpetrol.com:

iandbeech

2,709 posts

264 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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simpo two said:

murph7355 said:
Ideas on how to spice F1 up


One thing that made me laugh out loud was the trailer for the F1 season (also used last year) showing a mythical Barrichello coming into the pits. While they did the tyres and fuel, he got out, was spun round a few times by the mechanics in the 'spin box' and then lurched back to the car.

And let us not forget this from www.sniffpetrol.com:



Are they making Michael Schumacher wear a panda outfit now in order to make him slower?

murcielago

952 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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I'm still watching it but I don't care about how well Ferrari do(unless they aren't first and second), I just wanna see BAR beat some BMW Williams

pwig

11,956 posts

276 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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murcielago said:
I'm still watching it but I don't care about how well Ferrari do(unless they aren't first and second), I just wanna see BAR beat some BMW Williams


simpo two

Original Poster:

86,704 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Terrific. I've been moved to 'General Motorsport'. I never look there. I bet for every 100 people who look in General Gassing, where it was originally posted, maybe one looks here?

hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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simpo two said:
Terrific. I've been moved to 'General Motorsport'. I never look there. I bet for every 100 people who look in General Gassing, where it was originally posted, maybe one looks here?


Hellooo?? anyone in here?

It looks like the race could be quite interesting after all, there is a standstorm !