How many MP's have children serving in the armed forces??

[dreamz]

after a local councillors son was seriously injured whilst on active duty

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8339492....

it made me think how many MP's have children actually in the armed forces and on active duty?

i remember reading a few years back that no american senator had a child in the us armed forces...

[ralphrj]

I don't know if any MPs have children serving but I don't think the comment about the US Senate is incorrect. John McCain is still a Senator and several of his sons are in the armed forces (at least one has done tours of Iraq).

Edited by ralphrj on Sunday 22 August 09:12

[ninja-lewis]

How many are even old enough? The average age of an MP is 50 nowadays and as young professionals they were probably older on average when they had their first child. The figure in the House of Lords is likely higher though.

However, there are quite a few MPs who have served themselves as well as a couple who are still members of the Reserves and have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan while an MP. Unfortunately not many of them on the Labour benches and very few in recent governments (only a few peers IIRC).

[Tiggsy]

Would it not be the case that the kids of well paid people are less likely to join the army anyway?

[eldar]

ralphrj said:

I don't know if any MPs have children serving but I don't think the comment about the US Senate is incorrect. John McCain is still a Senator and several of his sons are in the armed forces (at least one has done tours of Iraq).

Edited by ralphrj on Sunday 22 August 09:12

I remember some programme recently on Radio4. 4 or 5 had children actually there, another couple had kids in the services that may do in the future.

[Hungry Freak]

Nobody who really pulled the strings to get this war started has any family serving.

After all, war is rich old men defending, protecting or expanding their property by sending other people's children to die. Always has been, always will be.

[Bluebarge]

Tiggsy said:

Would it not be the case that the kids of well paid people are less likely to join the army anyway?

1. a backbench MP is not paid that well;
2. joining the forces is and has been a career option for toffs and the middle class for centuries - this shows no sign of changing.

[knk]

One British General serving in Afghanistan has a son who lost both his legs after being injured in service in Helmand.

[996c2]

gerradiuk said:

This is a very interesting subject, I do think maybe Blair's son could have joined & Blair keep his 4.9 million donation!!

William and Harry are in the "Armed forces" - seems to me that all they do is play around with expensive toys without enduring any of the hardships or risk to life that their ordinary officers have to face.

I don't think that TB children will be any different...

[anonymous-user]

996c2 said:

William and Harry are in the "Armed forces" - seems to me that all they do is play around with expensive toys without enduring any of the hardships or risk to life that their ordinary officers have to face.

complete cr*p. harry served in helmand on daily patrols just like anyone else, the first 3 months in secret before a foreign website leaked it. don't know anything about william but andrew flew excocet decoy helicopters in the falklands. both were in direct line of fire which i suspect given how blithely you dissmiss their service you have never had the balls to do.

[andy400]

How many MPs have themselves 'served'? I suspect not many.

[anonymous-user]

andy400 said:

How many MPs have themselves 'served'? I suspect not many.

does self serving count? (i think fatty soames was in a 'posh' regiment, can't exactly see him charging a trench with colonel h though)

[Dixie68]

fbrs said:

996c2 said:

William and Harry are in the "Armed forces" - seems to me that all they do is play around with expensive toys without enduring any of the hardships or risk to life that their ordinary officers have to face.

complete cr*p. harry served in helmand on daily patrols just like anyone else, the first 3 months in secret before a foreign website leaked it. don't know anything about william but andrew flew excocet decoy helicopters in the falklands. both were in direct line of fire which i suspect given how blithely you dissmiss their service you have never had the balls to do.

Well said! Andrew was also the pilot of one of the helicopters shown repeatedly flying into the smoke of a burning RFA in the Falklands to pull dying and injured Welsh guards out of the water after it was bombed.

[996c2]

Dixie68 said:

fbrs said:

996c2 said:

William and Harry are in the "Armed forces" - seems to me that all they do is play around with expensive toys without enduring any of the hardships or risk to life that their ordinary officers have to face.

complete cr*p. harry served in helmand on daily patrols just like anyone else, the first 3 months in secret before a foreign website leaked it. don't know anything about william but andrew flew excocet decoy helicopters in the falklands. both were in direct line of fire which i suspect given how blithely you dissmiss their service you have never had the balls to do.

Well said! Andrew was also the pilot of one of the helicopters shown repeatedly flying into the smoke of a burning RFA in the Falklands to pull dying and injured Welsh guards out of the water after it was bombed.

What a load of cobblers! Next you'll be telling me Di and Dodi died in a car "accident".

fbrs said:

don't know anything about william

The following link should enlighten you...

RAF fury over Prince William's £30,000 helicopter stunt in Kate Middleton's backyard

[SystemParanoia]

996c2 said:

Dixie68 said:

fbrs said:

996c2 said:

William and Harry are in the "Armed forces" - seems to me that all they do is play around with expensive toys without enduring any of the hardships or risk to life that their ordinary officers have to face.

complete cr*p. harry served in helmand on daily patrols just like anyone else, the first 3 months in secret before a foreign website leaked it. don't know anything about william but andrew flew excocet decoy helicopters in the falklands. both were in direct line of fire which i suspect given how blithely you dissmiss their service you have never had the balls to do.

Well said! Andrew was also the pilot of one of the helicopters shown repeatedly flying into the smoke of a burning RFA in the Falklands to pull dying and injured Welsh guards out of the water after it was bombed.

What a load of cobblers! Next you'll be telling me Di and Dodi died in a car "accident".

fbrs said:

don't know anything about william

The following link should enlighten you...

RAF fury over Prince William's £30,000 helicopter stunt in Kate Middleton's backyard

haha awesome.. i'd do that too

[andy400]

996c2 said:

The following link should enlighten you...

RAF fury over Prince William's £30,000 helicopter stunt in Kate Middleton's backyard

I have no problem with that whatsoever. With all the money that is wasted in this country on all sorts of utter ste - and that includes in the Armed Forces - I can't even come close to considering that our future King landing a helicopter at his girlfriend's house is somehow 'wrong'.

[thinfourth2]

andy400 said:

996c2 said:

The following link should enlighten you...

RAF fury over Prince William's £30,000 helicopter stunt in Kate Middleton's backyard

I have no problem with that whatsoever. With all the money that is wasted in this country on all sorts of utter ste - and that includes in the Armed Forces - I can't even come close to considering that our future King landing a helicopter at his girlfriend's house is somehow 'wrong'.

Not that crap again when he was on a routine training mission and he landed somewhere if it wasn't his girlfriends back door it would be some poor farmers.


I'm sure i read someone getting their caterham 7 taken around the country on a jolly in a chinook during a training mission

Would you prefer they stopped all training missions and pilots ran around the carpark flapping their arms and making helicopter noises

[Carfolio]

thinfourth2 said:

Would you prefer they stopped all training missions and pilots ran around the carpark flapping their arms and making helicopter noises

Something tells me you don't have a complete understanding of how helicopters work :P

[thinfourth2]

Carfolio said:

thinfourth2 said:

Would you prefer they stopped all training missions and pilots ran around the carpark flapping their arms and making helicopter noises

Something tells me you don't have a complete understanding of how helicopters work :P

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/helicopter/hinges.shtml



Are you sure?

Edited by thinfourth2 on Friday 27th August 13:11

[Carfolio]

thinfourth2 said:

Carfolio said:

thinfourth2 said:

Would you prefer they stopped all training missions and pilots ran around the carpark flapping their arms and making helicopter noises

Something tells me you don't have a complete understanding of how helicopters work :P

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/design/helicopter/hinges.shtml



Are you sure?

Edited by thinfourth2 on Friday 27th August 13:11

bah, rumbled