Which MX-5 is the best?

Which MX-5 is the best?

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Dave The Jackal

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38 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Ok, simple question...

With a good first gen and a half decent early second gen pretty close in financial terms, it leaves me wondering:

Which generation and model is the best iteration of the MX-5? You decide!

Deluded

4,968 posts

198 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Having never driven either, my personal choice would be the mk2.

Simply because I think the front end looks better and it has a nicer, more modern interior.

Edited by Deluded on Saturday 24th July 20:26

rudecherub

1,997 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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second generation was a big car shape in a too small body

the original looks the most pleasing to the eye but is less well equipped. Mk1 every time for me

rfn

4,545 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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IMO, having owned a Mk2.5 and a Mk3, and extensively driven a Mk1 and Mk2 over the past few years

Mk1 is the better of the earlier ones, though lots of UK cars are (sadly) rotting away, they just seem to handle better than the Mk2, have pop-up lights, though often low spec (UK cars only).

Mk3 is the better overall (again, IMO), once lowered and geometry done, bit of power behind it and handles as well as the Mk1 (again, IMO) wink

peterbredde

775 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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I've had a 1.6 MK1 and a 1.8 MkII. The MKII is a better all round car - better interior etc and build but, if I'm honest, I reckon I had more fun in the MK 1 even with a smaller engine. It was smaller, lighter and demanded more of the driver. It is a car not without its faults, but, IMHO, a fun car without rival for the price. I loved it. My wife preferred the MK 11 and cried when it went. I wasn't that bothered when it went.

Bonefish Blues

29,444 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Thought about this long and hard and ultimately bought a Mk 2.5 Sport.

Dave The Jackal

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38 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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The reason I ask is we need a second car in case we need (or just want!) to be different places - it doesn't need to be practical and, until our driveway is done (which depends on the council more than anything!) it will be kept on the road so I don't want to get the Elise or similar just yet.

I want a relatively cheap, fun, rwd soft top and the MX-5 is the obvious choice (although I know some people on here would say the MR2 is a better drive...).

I don't mind spending MK3 money if it's worth it, but if I can get as goog an experience in an earlier car, I won't lose as much when I get my Elise / VX / whatever.

I'm a firm believer that bigger is better, so I'd be looking at 1.8 MK1s and 2s and a 2.0 Sport MK3, unless you can persuade me otherwise... Having said that an MX-5 specialist near me (Paul Sheard) recently had a MK1 1.6 Turbo for sale that I probably should have had a test drive in.

Thoughts on turbo'd and s'charged versions? How much power could I expect?

Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Mk1, if only for the pop-up headlights.


st, there's even a button on the dash that will raise the pop-up headlights for no reason whatsoever.

Dave The Jackal

Original Poster:

38 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Headlights nudge Mk1 into an early lead... clap

Dave The Jackal

Original Poster:

38 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Bonefish Blues said:
Thought about this long and hard and ultimately bought a Mk 2.5 Sport.
When did 2.5 appear? What differentiates it from MK2?

v8will

3,307 posts

203 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Dave The Jackal said:
Thoughts on turbo'd and s'charged versions? How much power could I expect?
Depends entirely on the conversion. Top end Flyin Miata turbo kits, on a built engine can easily exceed 300BHP, you might want to keep a spare gearbox in the garage though! Most conversions on standard engine internals will be around 180- 220BHP on standard engine internals. Basic greddy or HKS kits will be maybe 40BHP more than stock.

I'd highly advise taking a little help to assess a forced induction car, I don't know enough about the supercharger kits to comment.

I'd have a genuine BBR special edition MK1 or a good turbo conversion if it was a well known car through some of the owners clubs.

Edited by v8will on Saturday 24th July 20:55

rfn

4,545 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Dave The Jackal said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Thought about this long and hard and ultimately bought a Mk 2.5 Sport.
When did 2.5 appear? What differentiates it from MK2?
Mk2.5 came out in 2001. Different headlights (with projector lenses), different model deviations, slightly different interior, and the following:


Improved Safety
The seat belts are equipped with load limiter and pre-tensioner systems.
A double locking system has been added to power door lock system.
Improved Convenience
A keyless entry system has been adopted
An auto open function has been adopted for the driver-side power window system
The console has been enlarged to provide more space utilization
A removable ashtray has been adopted
Inproved Comfort
A seat warmer system has been adopted
Improved Design
Quad headlights have been adopted
The instrument cluster design has been changed
Improved Marketability
Front fog lights have been added
A 2-Din size audio unit has been adopted. It provides various, extendable combinations (CD player/CD changer/cassette deck/MD player)
Modification To Match Market Regulations
A MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) has been added to the instrument cluster or OBD model in compliance with the OBD regulation.

B3njamin

1,129 posts

194 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Mk1 - I like the looks best and mine is a riot to drive smile

LukeBird

17,170 posts

216 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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I went through the same thoughts at the end of last year.
Bought an '03 Mk2.5 1.8 Sport.

Brilliant car and for an everyday user I think the 2.5 nudges the earlier cars for increased liveability.
I'm not saying I can't live without heated leather etc. but it is nice! biggrin

Doniger

1,971 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Cock Womble 7 said:
Mk1, if only for the pop-up headlights.


st, there's even a button on the dash that will raise the pop-up headlights for no reason whatsoever.
The lack of this is the worst thing about having a mk2 furious

Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Doniger said:
Cock Womble 7 said:
Mk1, if only for the pop-up headlights.


st, there's even a button on the dash that will raise the pop-up headlights for no reason whatsoever.
The lack of this is the worst thing about having a mk2 furious
That button is the single most brilliant, but pointless, feature I've ever seen on a car ever.

It doesn't turn the headlights on, it doesn't flash the headlights, it just raises them for no reason whatsoever.

It should be labelled the "Look! I've got pop-up headlights - how cool is that?" switch.

Jag-D

19,633 posts

226 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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rudecherub said:
second generation was a big car shape in a too small body

the original looks the most pleasing to the eye but is less well equipped. Mk1 every time for me
I like the looks of the Mk2, but love my mk1 and the price means they're such a bargain.

As for less equipment? Meehhhh it's a sports type car, should be light and without gubbins

Dave The Jackal

Original Poster:

38 posts

172 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Starting to think I can't live without such a magnificent switch... it's very existence has somehow just made my life a little bit better yum

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

206 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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MK2.5 1.8 sport if youre going to live with it.

Early (115bhp) MK1 or one of the better spec Eunos if it is a weekend blat/track car that you would enjoy tweaking.

Cock Womble 7

29,908 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Dave The Jackal said:
Starting to think I can't live without such a magnificent switch... it's very existence has somehow just made my life a little bit better yum
And, when you raise the headlights, they act as an air-brake, like on the Veyron.

Probably.