TVR Car Club? Any point?
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Seeing as they want you to pay to join before you even get to see what you get (forum, discounts etc) - is there any point? I doubt I'd read a magazine anyway.
Does the forum give you anything that PH doesn't?
Yes they have meets and events, but (and I may be shot for this) I'd rather see 100 varied cars on a PH meet than 100 TVRs at theirs.
Does the forum give you anything that PH doesn't?
Yes they have meets and events, but (and I may be shot for this) I'd rather see 100 varied cars on a PH meet than 100 TVRs at theirs.
Mattt said:
Yes they have meets and events, but (and I may be shot for this) I'd rather see 100 varied cars on a PH meet than 100 TVRs at theirs.
Don't bother joining then, its a club for enthusiasts of the marque....you would absolutely hate meetings like Chatsworth where 600+ TVRs meet up. The magazine is fine - if you count about 6 articles a month and a wealth of advertising as acceptable. The forum is fairly dull due to 7000+ members of which something like only 100 use the forum regularly. Probably 500 lurk and seldom post, if ever. And if you're not a TVRCC member you can't see anything, such as the relevant information to this years Backhome next month, so really if you're not in the club you're treated as an outcast. At the very least you would imagine a car club with so many members and a dying marque would take their head out of their backside and let other TVR enthusiasts read the forums even if they can't contribute.
Squid Biker said:
The magazine is fine - if you count about 6 articles a month and a wealth of advertising as acceptable. The forum is fairly dull due to 7000+ members of which something like only 100 use the forum regularly. Probably 500 lurk and seldom post, if ever. And if you're not a TVRCC member you can't see anything, such as the relevant information to this years Backhome next month, so really if you're not in the club you're treated as an outcast. At the very least you would imagine a car club with so many members and a dying marque would take their head out of their backside and let other TVR enthusiasts read the forums even if they can't contribute.
Considerably more editorial than that and lno more advertising than any other professionally produced magazine.The whole point of joining a club is to get the benefits on offer so why should the forums and/or benefits be open to non-members? All the necessary details about the Backhome event can be found in these pages in the events forum and elsewhere.
I joined before i bought the car to get realistic advice from owners, without having MX5 and Corsa owners saying "they always break down"
I am still a member and save the cost of membership in discounts on servicing each year.
Yes it is nt Pistonheads but that is both a bad and good thing.
I am still a member and save the cost of membership in discounts on servicing each year.
Yes it is nt Pistonheads but that is both a bad and good thing.
V8 GRF said:
Considerably more editorial than that and no more advertising than any other professionally produced magazine.
The target was for 30%+-2% adverts and in general we tended to hit it. I've given up the joyful pursuit of counting Sprint pages of adverts but I have a copy of Land Rover Owner International in front of me and have just counted the pages of editorial. It is 237 out of 268. And that is counting the New products pages, 4x, as editorial when it is advertising pure and simple. So 50% for a pro magazine in a highly competative corner of WHS shelves.Sorry to be so particular, David, but I used to be told how overwhelmed certain readers felt by adverts in Sprint when I was editor and, despite stone cold evidence the to contrary they still kept pushing the old story of Sprint having more than reasonable.
Further, the display ads were generally of a very high quality and did not lower the whole tone of the mag like some adverts can.
I don't know if it is still true but in my time there were advertisers queuing to get space in Sprint, just waiting for dead man's shoes.
If you are new to the marque and need advice the TVRCC has a lot to offer.
If you want to go on their outings etc then it's good for that too.
The mag (when I used to get it) was fine - and you WANT the ads in it - they are all for TVR services you may need!
However - if, like me, you have owned a TVR for ten years or more then you already know where to get all the help you need and have probably come out the far side of the social side of things. So I don't keep up a membership as I simply do not need it: as a new owner of a TVR car, however, I would definitely join up for at least a year...
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If you want to go on their outings etc then it's good for that too.
The mag (when I used to get it) was fine - and you WANT the ads in it - they are all for TVR services you may need!
However - if, like me, you have owned a TVR for ten years or more then you already know where to get all the help you need and have probably come out the far side of the social side of things. So I don't keep up a membership as I simply do not need it: as a new owner of a TVR car, however, I would definitely join up for at least a year...
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Its worth it just for discounts alone.
My 2 week euro breakdown cover for instance was £160+ until I mentioned I was a club member when it dropped to £55 so the yearly subscription has already paid for itself.
But I didn't just join the TVRCC for what I could get out of it. They do valuable work behind the scenes and although I rarely take part in anything the club organise I am happy to contribute my bit annually to keeping it going and joined the club before I bought my Griff so I could get the magazine and begin researching the car.
The forum is very quiet, too quiet for my liking and although I've 'fallen out' with PH a couple of times and vowed to stay in the sanctuary of the TVRCC forum I find myself back here because of the wealth of information and the fantastic help and support PH TVR community offers, often within minutes of posting a request for help.
So I'd recommend a combination of the two. What have you got to lose?
My 2 week euro breakdown cover for instance was £160+ until I mentioned I was a club member when it dropped to £55 so the yearly subscription has already paid for itself.
But I didn't just join the TVRCC for what I could get out of it. They do valuable work behind the scenes and although I rarely take part in anything the club organise I am happy to contribute my bit annually to keeping it going and joined the club before I bought my Griff so I could get the magazine and begin researching the car.
The forum is very quiet, too quiet for my liking and although I've 'fallen out' with PH a couple of times and vowed to stay in the sanctuary of the TVRCC forum I find myself back here because of the wealth of information and the fantastic help and support PH TVR community offers, often within minutes of posting a request for help.
So I'd recommend a combination of the two. What have you got to lose?
Edited by Barreti on Thursday 22 July 09:01
Mattt said:
Seeing as they want you to pay to join before you even get to see what you get (forum, discounts etc) - is there any point? I doubt I'd read a magazine anyway.
Does the forum give you anything that PH doesn't?
Yes they have meets and events, but (and I may be shot for this) I'd rather see 100 varied cars on a PH meet than 100 TVRs at theirs.
Matt.Does the forum give you anything that PH doesn't?
Yes they have meets and events, but (and I may be shot for this) I'd rather see 100 varied cars on a PH meet than 100 TVRs at theirs.
I don't see the point of you posting on this forum in such a way.
I was a club member for quite a few years but have recently let my membership lapse for my own personal reasons.
The club is very well run and many of my closest TVR Mates are lifelong members.
I would suggest you look at what you think you can give to the club ! and also what you take out and make your own decision based around your opinion and not others who may well have their own gripes and agendas to push.
The club gives many things to many people and is a very good in terms of its running, events etc etc etc. the regional areas however are the backbone of the club and the success of the club ultimately is driven by the work of the regional groups and organisers who put in many many hours of work to give TVR Owners in various regions all over the UK a place to belong and meet like minded enthusiasts.
Sorry to post this but I even though a non member wouldn't want this to turn into a soundboard for others to slag anything off, which is what often happens with a post of this nature.
Neil.
I've been a member for 20+ years, but had PH been around back then, I'm not certain I would have joined. When it comes to fora, my view is that there a far greater depth of knowledge (technical and otherwise) on TVR matters here, which is absolutely free. Some discounts may be available by being a member of PH,but for me, one of the biggest dissappointments has been the TVRCC approved insurance scheme. Both the current and the previous incumbents have been unable to provide quotes which were even vauguely competitive, and the apparent lack of knowledge by the current provider is offputting.
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One of the things the Club did which I thought was fantastic was to arrange TVR parking at TVR motor racing events. At Silverstone this amounted to being able to pop back to your car at any time and pop things in and out of the boot - brilliant.
The PCGB eventually took a leaf out of their book.
The PCGB eventually took a leaf out of their book.
dbv8 said:
I always enjoy the mag.
I might tell my story for an article in there once my cars finished and running 10's.
Definately interested in that so drop me a line when you get sorted Derek. Make sure you take lots of good (ie high) quality pics to accompany the piece though during the process if possible. I might tell my story for an article in there once my cars finished and running 10's.
It depends what you want out of it.. The mag is good, the discounts I can say I've ever noticed? You can tell your insurer that you're a member if it gets discount and I can't say I've ever been asked for any proof. I ended up letting my membership lapse this year though as I simply couldn't see what I was getting for the money other than the mag? That said, I'm really not a fan of sitting in carparks looking at several TVRs, and most TVR meets seem to be just that these days so I tend not to attend anything to see any TVRCC benefits...
If they were to organise more trackdays/race meet presence etc then I would be much more interested. But IMHO, TVRs are for driving, not polishing and parking next to each other. Unfortunately most of the owners, and therefore the car club don't seem to agree with this view. Shame really!
In short:
Polisher = worth it
Driver = not worth it
If they were to organise more trackdays/race meet presence etc then I would be much more interested. But IMHO, TVRs are for driving, not polishing and parking next to each other. Unfortunately most of the owners, and therefore the car club don't seem to agree with this view. Shame really!
In short:
Polisher = worth it
Driver = not worth it
Edited by 450Nick on Thursday 22 July 09:35
They used to get good LeMans pitch tickets, and sell them without huge mark up (as a business would).
Years ago I have had some bad experiences with the older members with 'classic' TVRs not liking us youngsters with 'modern' TVRs.
The worst I encoutered (Surrey meet) was someone telling my friend with his early, highly unreliable and very expensive to run Cerbera "that's not even a real TVR. I don't know why you lot are even members of the club".
However, I made a lot of friends through the City region - but that was more a love of curry and drinking. We left the Trunnion Polishers to their snobbish ways and got on with being friendly. I believe the monthly DD meets are still going through here.
Years ago I have had some bad experiences with the older members with 'classic' TVRs not liking us youngsters with 'modern' TVRs.
The worst I encoutered (Surrey meet) was someone telling my friend with his early, highly unreliable and very expensive to run Cerbera "that's not even a real TVR. I don't know why you lot are even members of the club".
However, I made a lot of friends through the City region - but that was more a love of curry and drinking. We left the Trunnion Polishers to their snobbish ways and got on with being friendly. I believe the monthly DD meets are still going through here.
I am on my fourth TVR now. There are many people both Pistonhead's contributors and TVRCC members who have owned far more TVR's than I have. The reason that I have always come back to them is because nothing else that I have driven has given me the pleasure and enjoyment that this marque has.
I never cease to be amazed by the number of Tiv owners at TVR events or any other motoring events for that matter who want to talk and enthuse about their cars and other people's cars.
TVR 'people' have to live with the occassional (some more occassional than others) niggles with our cars or the odd serious mechanical disasters. We are always having our legs pulled about how unreliable the cars we love are and we tend to take it in good heart and enter into a bit of friendly banter. But we put up with all of this because when we drive them or even when we just look at them on the driveway out of the living room window- they make us smile. Lots.
Joining the TVRCC isn't just about sitting on Forums and discussing technical issues and sharing experiences- Pistonheads is going to trump the TVRCC Forums on this everytime. But what it is about, in my opinion, is supporting the name, building friendships and showing how proud we are of our cars
I never cease to be amazed by the number of Tiv owners at TVR events or any other motoring events for that matter who want to talk and enthuse about their cars and other people's cars.
TVR 'people' have to live with the occassional (some more occassional than others) niggles with our cars or the odd serious mechanical disasters. We are always having our legs pulled about how unreliable the cars we love are and we tend to take it in good heart and enter into a bit of friendly banter. But we put up with all of this because when we drive them or even when we just look at them on the driveway out of the living room window- they make us smile. Lots.
Joining the TVRCC isn't just about sitting on Forums and discussing technical issues and sharing experiences- Pistonheads is going to trump the TVRCC Forums on this everytime. But what it is about, in my opinion, is supporting the name, building friendships and showing how proud we are of our cars
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