Puzzled ???
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lady topaz

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3,855 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Dont want to open the proverbial can of worms, but why is it always the "Tuscan Speed Six" engine that comes in for abuse (not mine I would hasten to add). Is this not the same lump now adorning the latest Cerbs, Tamoras, 350's etc. A lot of posts are whether or not to risk buying a Tusc, but doesnt the same now apply to any of the new models. Why is the Tusc always singled out as if it is unique with probs?

rude girl

6,937 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Good point. Perhaps because the Tuscan shape is so distinctive that it attracts more first-time TVR buyers? My insurers said that's why they get more single-vehicle accidents in Tuscans - people not used to the power and handling.

Maybe people who buy T350s etc are a bit more likely to be old hands, and already know the answers to the questions?

Apart from that, no idea

mesh

94 posts

259 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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The Tuscan and the Cerb Speed Six tend to come in for a bashing. They were the first to have the Speed Six engine and the ones which failed because of valve gear problems. Generally speaking by the time Tamora and T350 came along engines were sorted or getting there and the problem was clearly associated with the earlier cars.

lady topaz

Original Poster:

3,855 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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mesh said:
Generally speaking by the time Tamora and T350 came along engines were sorted or getting there and the problem was clearly associated with the earlier cars.



Exactly, so why do certain elements refuse to differentiate?

>> Edited by lady topaz on Thursday 18th March 19:39

beano500

20,854 posts

290 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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lady topaz said:
... certain elements ...









(We know who you mean!)

mesh

94 posts

259 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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lady topaz said

"Exactly, so why do certain elements refuse to differentiate?"

I agree, it seems unfair that "certain elements" constantly drone on about Tuscan reliability when the speed six engine is fitted to the entire range of cars barring the V8 Cerbs. An old saying "Sh*t sticks" might have something to do with it

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Don't be puzzled any longer, Lady Topaz - Flasher is currently single-handedly redressing the balance by condemning both the T350C and Tamora as we speak elsewhere on this very forum.

lady topaz

Original Poster:

3,855 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Not going to be drawn into what for some reason is your pet arguement Jigs but would just say for some the early S6 has caused heartache, the rest of us seem very satisfied with our cars. Why not fight another cause? Stop trying to stereotype.

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Just trying to point out that all pre-2003 Speed Six engined TVRs have suffered from similar engine problems - Flasher, the font of all TVR knowledge is recently converted to this cause - I was just John the Baptist to Flasher's messiah!

lady topaz

Original Poster:

3,855 posts

269 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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jigs said:
Just trying to point out that all pre-2003 Speed Six engined TVRs have suffered from similar engine problems - Flasher, the font of all TVR knowledge is recently converted to this cause - I was just John the Baptist to Flasher's messiah!


If we are now going down the scriptures route with Easter approaching, "Judas" springs to mind, don't get Cross and be prepared to be crucified!!!

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Your bible must be different from mine - Judas wasn't crucified - he's living happily ever after with Ace-T.

rude girl

6,937 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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jigs said:
Don't be puzzled any longer, Lady Topaz - Flasher is currently single-handedly redressing the balance by condemning both the T350C and Tamora as we speak elsewhere on this very forum.


Jigs, I've generally been one to give you the benefit of the doubt; I have suspected that your humour would be more evident in the flesh than in print. But you're even getting on my tits now, and I'm a V8 fan!!!!

As far as I can see (and I know him reasonably well), Flasher's point is that the Sp6 engine drives like heaven, but if you get a poor one, it gives you hell. I think we all knew this all along. The joys of TVR ownership are greater than the downsides for people with the right temperament. If the pain is greater than the pleasure, buy a Toyota.

There, the Rude guide to decision-making. Easy, innit?

mesh

94 posts

259 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Nicely put Rude Girl, Jigs how many times do I have to flush before you go away?

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

276 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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lady topaz said:
Dont want to open the proverbial can of worms, but why is it always the "Tuscan Speed Six" engine that comes in for abuse (not mine I would hasten to add). Is this not the same lump now adorning the latest Cerbs, Tamoras, 350's etc. A lot of posts are whether or not to risk buying a Tusc, but doesnt the same now apply to any of the new models. Why is the Tusc always singled out as if it is unique with probs?


Di,

Yep same old story ain't it....

Alan.

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Thursday 18th March 2004
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Mesh - I ain't going in there until you get rid of that floater - change your diet man!

swilly

9,699 posts

289 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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jigs said:
Just trying to point out that all pre-2003 Speed Six engined TVRs have suffered from similar engine problems


I think you'll find this statement is, to say the least, absolutely bollocks, my jiggery-pokery friend.

jurdy

281 posts

299 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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Jigs, I have listened patiently and without any retort to your incessant blathter. Now you have quite clearly broken cover I declare that it is open season on the lesser spotted round brown fish that you are!!!

I suggest that you should spend a little less time in front of playstation and get out more. Move on, find another forum to bore.

dai capp

1,641 posts

275 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I was told by a very reliable source (at the factory) that the purge systems were different between Cerbie Speed Six and Tuscan Speed 6 engines. Also apparently the temperature under the bonnet of the Tuscan is quite a bit higher than that of a cerbie, this could account for the difference in reliability.

When I was at the factory there were 24 Tuscans and 1 Cerbera there for engine rebuild. Also they have sold far more Tuscans than Cerbies which may also acount for the skewed bad press.

As for the T350 I think most of those came out once the 'problems' were resolved. Tamora's I don't know about so I won't speculate as this is a emotive issue!

Just my thought - probably pointless but there we go...

Cheers

DC

TUS 373

4,944 posts

296 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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jigs said:
Just trying to point out that all pre-2003 Speed Six engined TVRs have suffered from similar engine problems - Flasher, the font of all TVR knowledge is recently converted to this cause - I was just John the Baptist to Flasher's messiah!


Time we had your head on a plate then?

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

256 months

Friday 19th March 2004
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I know this sounds a bit radical but as TVR probably scan this forum isn't it obvious to them by now that if only they made a statement about what happened with the in-line six,what was done to fix the problem and what any buyer can expect from a new one it would do a whole heap of good for the brand,stop the whingers and give newbies like me some ammunition to counter the eye rolling forehead smacking condescention you get from just about VR.
If its not obvious to the factory by now - TVR's reputation is getting a beating because they are saying nowt.