Abu Hamza has Human Right not to be extradited

[grumbledoak]

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg has ruled that it needs more time to examine the evidence about the men, who also include Haroon Aswat and Seyla Ahsan.

It concluded that Mr Ahmad, Mr Aswat and Mr Ahsan were “at real risk” of being held in a US “super max” prison with the highest levels of security for the rest of their lives if they were convicted.

Ah, diddums, they might actually be punished!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4db9a2f4-8a73-11df-bd2e-...

[Reload]

Heaven forbid that they may actually be made to pay for their crimes

[Muntu]

Heaven forbid that the new government that was just voted in here will do anything about our inability to uphold our own laws.

[Political Pain]

Compare and contrast...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/sakineh-m...

[Eric Mc]

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

wtf has any skew got to do with anything? he's wanted by one of our allies to answer terrorism charges, we want to extradite him but are blocked by europe. the uk is a joke, then again they don't live in europe they live in the uk so the eu doesnt care. its not like the eu stepped in and blocked gary mckinnons extradition, wrong demographic to appease i guess. mi5 should have seen to these fvcking guys long before you or i ever knew who they were.

Edited by fbrs on Thursday 8th July 18:52

[odyssey2200]

It seems as though every evil fker has human rights exept the british public how have to accept more and more of the worlds scum and smile about it.

[Jimbeaux]

grumbledoak said:

The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg has ruled that it needs more time to examine the evidence about the men, who also include Haroon Aswat and Seyla Ahsan.

It concluded that Mr Ahmad, Mr Aswat and Mr Ahsan were “at real risk” of being held in a US “super max” prison with the highest levels of security for the rest of their lives if they were convicted.

Ah, diddums, they might actually be punished!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4db9a2f4-8a73-11df-bd2e-...

Why is being locked in Super max wrong? It is a civilian prison; they are not sentenced to death, so what is the EU's objection? If anything, they should push to keep us from getting the afflicted "hacker" Gary Mckinnon and give over these guys.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 8th July 19:09

[Jimbeaux]

Political Pain said:

Compare and contrast...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/06/sakineh-m...

I am very surprised this story has not come up on PH earlier. I honestly thought Iran had gotten past such Dark Age practices as stoning for adultry.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 8th July 19:12

[Political Pain]

I think that the media is in some fear of facing what is really "Islam", not fundamentalist Islam but the day to day double-standards and bigotry that is as much part of it as bread is made from dough.

[fluffnik]

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

[grumbledoak]

Jimbeaux said:

Why is being locked in Super max wrong? It is a civilian prison; they are not sentenced to death, so what is the EU's objection? If anything, they should push to keep us from getting the afflicted "hacker" Gary Mckinnon and give over these guys.

Quite. This is a 'Human' Rights appeal against extradition on the grounds they might go to prison. It's laughable.

[Parrot of Doom]

fbrs said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

wtf has any skew got to do with anything? he's wanted by one of our allies to answer terrorism charges, we want to extradite him but are blocked by europe. the uk is a joke, then again they don't live in europe they live in the uk so the eu doesnt care. its not like the eu stepped in and blocked gary mckinnons extradition, wrong demographic to appease i guess. mi5 should have seen to these fvcking guys long before you or i ever knew who they were.

Edited by fbrs on Thursday 8th July 18:52

I don't want him extradited. I want him locked up and punished in the country he apparently hates so much.

[Mr_B]

Parrot of Doom said:

fbrs said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

wtf has any skew got to do with anything? he's wanted by one of our allies to answer terrorism charges, we want to extradite him but are blocked by europe. the uk is a joke, then again they don't live in europe they live in the uk so the eu doesnt care. its not like the eu stepped in and blocked gary mckinnons extradition, wrong demographic to appease i guess. mi5 should have seen to these fvcking guys long before you or i ever knew who they were.

Edited by fbrs on Thursday 8th July 18:52

I don't want him extradited. I want him locked up and punished in the country he apparently hates so much.

That's quite a list. If America wants to do the job for us, let them I say.

[Flintstone]

fluffnik said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

But we're all in this together, right? Hands across the Atlantic in the fight against terrorism. In fact, in the spirit of friendship and co-operation and the war against evil why don't the US give up those in Noraid who were raising funds for years to finance the IRA? That would be a start.

[Jimbeaux]

fluffnik said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

As oppssed to your courts? What exactly is your point about criminals being punished?

[rhinochopig]

Jimbeaux said:

fluffnik said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

As oppssed to your courts? What exactly is your point about criminals being punished?

O/T - Glad your on tonight Jimbo, I keep meaning to ask what the US opinion is to the Mosque they want to build at ground zero - must have ruffled a few feathers no?

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/american-life...

[Marquis_Rex]

What's all this Supermax rubbish- should be GitMo!

Is that still going?

[Muntu]

rhinochopig said:

Jimbeaux said:

fluffnik said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

As oppssed to your courts? What exactly is your point about criminals being punished?

O/T - Glad your on tonight Jimbo, I keep meaning to ask what the US opinion is to the Mosque they want to build at ground zero - must have ruffled a few feathers no?

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/american-life...

Pat Condell has some interesing opinions on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4

/sorry to butt in.

[rhinochopig]

Muntu said:

rhinochopig said:

Jimbeaux said:

fluffnik said:

Eric Mc said:

Quite right too. Whether you despise him or not, the same law applies to him as to you or I.

The Extradition Rules between the UK and the US are horribly skewed in favour of the US.

Frankly I don't think we should be extraditing anyone to the USA given the condition of its courts and jails.

As oppssed to your courts? What exactly is your point about criminals being punished?

O/T - Glad your on tonight Jimbo, I keep meaning to ask what the US opinion is to the Mosque they want to build at ground zero - must have ruffled a few feathers no?

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/american-life...

Pat Condell has some interesing opinions on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjS0Novt3X4

/sorry to butt in.

That's where I heard about it - one of my dog walking podcasts. It's a shame but he's becoming a complete polemicist, where before what he had to say was at least amusing with it.