Canon D5 mk11?
Discussion
It's a great camera for landscapes, portraits etc. Full frame camera with excellent HD video capabilities as well. 24Mp sensor, so the files it produces are massive! Only about 3pfs and 9 focus points so not best suited for action sports etc. Picture quality and lack of noise even at higher ISOs are strong points.
5D2,
Upsides:
Orsome 21mp beutiful images
Great lens selections
Viewfinder
DOF control due to FF sensor
1080 video of stunning quality.
Amazing low light perfomance
Downsides:
Lousy off center AF points
slow FPS compared to some
No built in flash
Cracking camera for general use, just not best suited to sports.
Upsides:
Orsome 21mp beutiful images
Great lens selections
Viewfinder
DOF control due to FF sensor
1080 video of stunning quality.
Amazing low light perfomance
Downsides:
Lousy off center AF points
slow FPS compared to some
No built in flash
Cracking camera for general use, just not best suited to sports.
The 5D MkII is the best camera I have ever owned.
I've had 10D and 20D crop frame cameras and a 12MP 5D 12MP Full frame camera. Once I got a full frame camera I couldn't bring myself to use a crop frame anymore. The 5D was replaced by a 21 MP MkII once the price came down from £2,300.00 it cost on its introduction. The image quality is so good I sold the last of my Hasselblad gear to fund a second MkII body. Coupled with good lenses the quality is like medium format. High ISO is pretty amazing.
I shoot at around three frames a minute so the frame rate of around "only" 3.9 frames a second is not relevant to me. I don't do continuous shooting. I use only the central focusing point and don't use a flash on camera so some of the issues others mention are not relevant to me either. With live view on a tripod you can set the camera to 10X magnification for critical focusing if you want to.
For me the camera is very complicated and has hundreds of settings. The menus can be confusing, but on the plus side the camera can be configured to do exactly what you want.
In my opinion for the money the 5D MII cannot be beat. I paid around £1,700.00 each for mine. They are probably even cheaper now. The closest rivals are probably the top of the range Nikon and Canon cameras that cost between £4,500.00 and £5,000.00 each. They are probably in some way better but out of my price range.
The 1080 HD video is fantastic. 5D MkIIs are increasingly being used on TV programs like "House" and "24". They are re-defining how movies are made in Hollywood.
In many ways a ground breaking camera at a very affordable price.
I think your friend would be very wise to get one.
I've had 10D and 20D crop frame cameras and a 12MP 5D 12MP Full frame camera. Once I got a full frame camera I couldn't bring myself to use a crop frame anymore. The 5D was replaced by a 21 MP MkII once the price came down from £2,300.00 it cost on its introduction. The image quality is so good I sold the last of my Hasselblad gear to fund a second MkII body. Coupled with good lenses the quality is like medium format. High ISO is pretty amazing.
I shoot at around three frames a minute so the frame rate of around "only" 3.9 frames a second is not relevant to me. I don't do continuous shooting. I use only the central focusing point and don't use a flash on camera so some of the issues others mention are not relevant to me either. With live view on a tripod you can set the camera to 10X magnification for critical focusing if you want to.
For me the camera is very complicated and has hundreds of settings. The menus can be confusing, but on the plus side the camera can be configured to do exactly what you want.
In my opinion for the money the 5D MII cannot be beat. I paid around £1,700.00 each for mine. They are probably even cheaper now. The closest rivals are probably the top of the range Nikon and Canon cameras that cost between £4,500.00 and £5,000.00 each. They are probably in some way better but out of my price range.
The 1080 HD video is fantastic. 5D MkIIs are increasingly being used on TV programs like "House" and "24". They are re-defining how movies are made in Hollywood.
In many ways a ground breaking camera at a very affordable price.
I think your friend would be very wise to get one.
Ed_P said:
7D also has integrated wireless control for off-camera speedlites. Now that is useful ...
And....8 fps
19 point af, with better spread than 5d
dual digic ( speed of response from the 7d is much better than 5d2)
electronic level
I loved the images from a 5D2, but for my pictures ( airshows, motorsports ) the 7D was the right tool.
Once the 5D2 is replaced I will look for one as a second body.
GetCarter said:
Cheers. I'm sure I could spend hours researching this, but you guys will, I'm sure answer this in a single sentence...
What's the difference between the 5D and 7D?
Ta again.
Steve
In addition to the full frame / crop differences:What's the difference between the 5D and 7D?
Ta again.
Steve
The 7D is significantly more targeted to sports photography with a powerful AF system with lots of customsation and options - some that even the pro-body 1D's are yet to gain iirc. The 5D2 doesn't seem to have a significantly improved AF system even in comparison to my 30D (launched 2006). Not to say it is bad - it'll be fine for portrait, landscape, general use - just that the 7D is a significant step up.
Frame rate: 5D2 is 3.9fps - 7D is 8fps
The inclusion of remote flash triggering ont he 7D is great - a Canon 580 Speedlite ( about £380) on the 5D2 will give you similar options.
If video is an option then there are significant differences here, the 7D looks the more feature packed with more fps options (including a slow motion option at 720p), the 5D2 doesn't have as many options. However if you are looking for that full-frame gorgeousness then the 5D2 wins hands down
(Both will suffer from ' rolling shutter' issues)
The 7D has better weatherproofing - similar to the older pro-body 1D models. The 5D2 isn't as sealed.
And of course Canon EF-S lenses can't be used on the 5D2, they are designed for crop sensor cameras only (I think there is an actual physical issue mounting them also). Too be honest this probably won't be a significant issue, all the high end lenses are EF not EF-S (imo the only really notable EF-S lens is the 17-55 f2.8 IS)
Not really a sentence (!) but lots more issues to cloud the judgement
Hope this 'helps'
Cheers.
P.S. The correct answer to these options would seem to be 'one of each'
Edited by flat-planedCrank on Sunday 4th July 00:21
Ammo 7 said:
I paid around £1,700.00 each for mine. They are probably even cheaper now.
Depressingly (for everyone else ), not really - http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/prod726.htmlCheers.
miniman said:
RobDickinson said:
Downsides:
Lousy off center AF points
I never use them... What am I missing?Lousy off center AF points
Actually means that the 40D + 50D actually have superior AF systems to the 5D2.When I have used the 5D2 (briefly) then one point that I did have issue was not being able to focus 'n' recompose when using fast f1.2 lenses - the resulting shots were just oof. For portraits etc. this probably isn't such an issue though - your mileage may vary etc..
Cheers.
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