Funding purchase of a derelict property
Funding purchase of a derelict property
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BigBen

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12,111 posts

253 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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As per subject, any pointers ?

I assume the options include a mix of:

-savings
-re-mortgage
-other loans

Anyone have any experience here ? I am not and don't plan to be a property developer but have seen a place I could see myself living in.

Ben

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Beware the romance of the wreck...

BigBen

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253 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Plotloss said:
Beware the romance of the wreck...
Wise words. I am fairly sure the Mrs is being wary enough for the both of us!

Ed.M

107 posts

231 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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I think The Mortgage Works now have a product aimed at properties needing work. I'm not an IFA but look it up as it means you can borrow against a normally un-mortgageable house.

fido

18,363 posts

278 months

Monday 21st June 2010
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Bank of Mum & Dad.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Go talk to a mortgage broker and see what they come up with. Granted it was 11 years ago, but we had a 100% mortgage on a property that had been derelict for 15 years previously - at the time we had a minimal mortgage on our then main house, and had some building surveys, builders rough fag-packet quotes and timescales for doing the place up, and showed that we had the cash in the bank to pay for that work at which point they were happy to run with the mortgage. It was about £150k IIRC, then "became" the main mortgage when we moved in two years later, with our old house becoming a rented property.

scirocco265

421 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Build Store have financial products specifically for projects like this: http://www.buildstore.co.uk/finance/

GT03ROB

13,977 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Scotal on here gave me some good pointers when I asked the same question a few weeks back. Short answer is you need to be cash rich & recognise financing will not be cheap.


BigBen

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12,111 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Right went and had a better look at the site / property this evening and suspect it is well beyond my knowledge / abilities to sort out or even guess at what needs doing. Given the auction is quite soon I am going to pass this time.

It was lot 13 in this auction

http://www.cheffins.co.uk/catalogue/propertyauctio...

Cheers

Ben

B17NNS

18,506 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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BigBen said:
It was lot 13 in this auction
Looks to me like you would be buying a (big) plot.

Demolition and new build is they way forward for that site I'd think.

Numerous abandoned vehicles though. Tuscan in a field? scratchchin

BigBen

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Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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B17NNS said:
BigBen said:
It was lot 13 in this auction
Looks to me like you would be buying a (big) plot.

Demolition and new build is they way forward for that site I'd think.

Numerous abandoned vehicles though. Tuscan in a field? scratchchin
My thinking was permission may be a problem for anything other than a refurb of the existing property as it is outside the boundary of the village (I think, no idea how planning works).

The abandoned vehicles looked to be quite interesting but the abandoning obviously happened a very long time ago so they are proper f**ked to use a technical term.

If I had spotted the auction six to eight weeks ago I might be taking a different view as I would have had time to do the necessary homework, but sadly have to leave it this time despite it being a huge plot on a road I have fancied living on for a good while now

Ben

GT03ROB

13,977 posts

244 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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BigBen said:
B17NNS said:
BigBen said:
It was lot 13 in this auction
Looks to me like you would be buying a (big) plot.

Demolition and new build is they way forward for that site I'd think.

Numerous abandoned vehicles though. Tuscan in a field? scratchchin
My thinking was permission may be a problem for anything other than a refurb of the existing property as it is outside the boundary of the village (I think, no idea how planning works).

The abandoned vehicles looked to be quite interesting but the abandoning obviously happened a very long time ago so they are proper f**ked to use a technical term.

If I had spotted the auction six to eight weeks ago I might be taking a different view as I would have had time to do the necessary homework, but sadly have to leave it this time despite it being a huge plot on a road I have fancied living on for a good while now

Ben
I really don't think that is refurbable! It's a demolish & start again job without a doubt.

garycat

5,144 posts

233 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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B17NNS said:
BigBen said:
It was lot 13 in this auction
Looks to me like you would be buying a (big) plot.

Demolition and new build is they way forward for that site I'd think.

Numerous abandoned vehicles though. Tuscan in a field? scratchchin
+1 That's a hell of a lot of clearing to do... maybe check that one of those abandoned vehicles isn't a Bugatti Royale before you pull your bid though ;-)

BigBen

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Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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garycat said:
B17NNS said:
BigBen said:
It was lot 13 in this auction
Looks to me like you would be buying a (big) plot.

Demolition and new build is they way forward for that site I'd think.

Numerous abandoned vehicles though. Tuscan in a field? scratchchin
+1 That's a hell of a lot of clearing to do... maybe check that one of those abandoned vehicles isn't a Bugatti Royale before you pull your bid though ;-)
That thought was in my mind as I looked round, the cars were generally so buried I could not tell what they were. I am going to stop reading classic mags from this day forward in case one of them does turn out to be worth millions.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Looks like a great plot, and a great position.


Buy buy buy.

BigBen

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Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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RedLeicester said:
Looks like a great plot, and a great position.


Buy buy buy.
This is my frustration, I suspect you are right.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Okay, then look at it this way - this plot has given you the germ of the idea, so now go do some homework, find out what you are and aren't up for, then begin the hunt anew.

CIS121

1,273 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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I'd go with the Buildstore option - I've spoken to the before about derelict property purchase and they were very useful and could setup all sorts of packages such as taking a charge on another property.

I'd think you'd need a 50% of market valuation deposit though in this market and ideally a reasonably saleable area - so South East would be ideal, but a remote house in the north could be more challenging.

Grandad Gaz

5,258 posts

269 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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You need to make sure you have finance in place before you go anywhere near a property auction!

Looks great, though thumbup

tokyo_mb

436 posts

240 months

Thursday 24th June 2010
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The legal pack makes interesting reading:

Legal pack said:
25% Enhancement of value fee payable on any planning permission granted within 20 years of the date of sale

Planning permission refused in 2004 for two replacement dwellings
Planning refusal in 2007 for industrial use (argument based on 10 years use as a tip)

Environmental report prepared to support 2004 planning application references the site containing:
- 200 scrap vehicles
- a stockpile of engine parts
- vehicle tyres
- up to 20 40 gallon oil drums in varying condition
- over 20 gas cylinders
- up to 50 refridgerators and freezers
- washing machines
- up to five large piles of bicycles
- asbestos sheeting
- up to 100 car batteries
- over 50 areas of burnt ground (use unclear)
- household and miscellaneous refuse
While the price is very attractive for the plot and location there's plenty of risk and expense associated with trying to develop the site. I'd still be tempted to look more closely were I back in the UK...

Edited by tokyo_mb on Thursday 24th June 06:56


Edited by tokyo_mb on Thursday 24th June 07:06