Inground swimming pools
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Davel

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8,982 posts

281 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Can anyone give me an idea what a decent sized heated pool would cost, with some type of housing please?

Can anyone recommend an installer in the North West?

wagon and horses

12,423 posts

217 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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I know I'm not answering your question but 2 points for you to consider:

1- Your water rates will go up, alot.

2- Having a pool will dramatically narrow your scope of potential buyers should you wish to sell.

eliot

11,988 posts

277 months

Monday 14th June 2010
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Have you considered a swim-spa, bit like this:


caziques

2,806 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Can't really help with prices, as I'm now in NZ. My 8m x 4m pool cost about eight thousand pounds ten years ago.

Apart from the initial fill (50-60,000 litres) it will then only need topping up as the water never needs changing.

Use either salt water or ozone as water treatment.

Heat it with either solar or heat pump (or a combination).

Davel

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8,982 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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wagon and horses said:
I know I'm not answering your question but 2 points for you to consider:

1- Your water rates will go up, alot.

2- Having a pool will dramatically narrow your scope of potential buyers should you wish to sell.
Didn't think of that.

Why though?

1) Apart from filling it, the ongoing water usage shouldn't increase.

2) I would have thought that a pool would be an attractive feature when selling.

Muzzer

3,814 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Davel said:
I would have thought that a pool would be an attractive feature when selling.
1. It depends on the house, obviously.

2. Some people see an outdoor pool as pointless waste of garden in our climate.

3. Some people with young families see pools as a risk in case their little darlings decide to go for a dip unintentionally.

Davel

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8,982 posts

281 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Fair enough.

We have enough land so that it wouldn't spoil the garden.

The idea of a housing was to keep it usable in the winter months and secureable too. Something like a sliding canopy (for the good weather) or a conservatory type structure.

Matt Harper

6,938 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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I live in the land of swimming pools - so they are considered cheap here.

For in-ground concrete/marcite (rather than vinyl or fiber-glass, which don't work too well here, due to the high water table) >20K <30K gallons, 1hp pump/motor and cartridge filtration, with a finished deck and electric heat-pump = $25-$30,000.

I'm guessing that you are looking at around the same money (sterling), without the enclosure.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Spanish pool about €15,000 for 8x5 ish

wagon and horses

12,423 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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Davel said:
wagon and horses said:
I know I'm not answering your question but 2 points for you to consider:

1- Your water rates will go up, alot.

2- Having a pool will dramatically narrow your scope of potential buyers should you wish to sell.
Didn't think of that.

Why though?

1) Apart from filling it, the ongoing water usage shouldn't increase.

2) I would have thought that a pool would be an attractive feature when selling.
The water people assume you will use loads of water - their excuse.

Most people don't want the expense when looking to buy. Running a 20x6m indoor pool cost my grandparents the same as the average mortgage to run. The boiler was huge! When they sold the house they had loads of interested people, all bar 2 parties dropped out because of the pool.

Trust me it was shocking.

eta: They didn't even heat it in the winter. Do remeber you need to treat and hoover it.

Edited by wagon and horses on Tuesday 15th June 20:24

mycroft

1,545 posts

270 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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wagon and horses said:
Davel said:
wagon and horses said:
I know I'm not answering your question but 2 points for you to consider:

1- Your water rates will go up, alot.

2- Having a pool will dramatically narrow your scope of potential buyers should you wish to sell.
Didn't think of that.

Why though?

1) Apart from filling it, the ongoing water usage shouldn't increase.

2) I would have thought that a pool would be an attractive feature when selling.
The water people assume you will use loads of water - their excuse.

Most people don't want the expense when looking to buy. Running a 20x6m indoor pool cost my grandparents the same as the average mortgage to run. The boiler was huge! When they sold the house they had loads of interested people, all bar 2 parties dropped out because of the pool.

Trust me it was shocking.

eta: They didn't even heat it in the winter. Do remeber you need to treat and hoover it.

Edited by wagon and horses on Tuesday 15th June 20:24
Sorry that's a load of rubbish .

Water costs no more than for anybody else and i use about a bath-full a week to top up a water metre is a must because you will never use as much water as you pay on rates , people who water their lawns with a sprinkler use more water than pool owners .
I use my pool all year round and it costs the same to heat the pool as it costs to heat the house i keep it about 29 degrees . The only other cost is chemicals at about £200 per year .
It cost me about £90 to fill the pool 8 yrs ago and you can get a rebate as you don't need to pay for the sewage on the volume .
You mention a housing , i assume you mean some type of building , mine is single brick with simple timber & tile roof . I would agree an out door pool is an expensive thing to run and you wont use it much .
You can build a block & liner pool for about 10k but the building over will cost 20k +
I agree a pool is not a selling feature but if you are considering one do it for your family not for any value it will add .
Hope that helps .
Dale

wagon and horses

12,423 posts

217 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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mycroft said:
wagon and horses said:
Davel said:
wagon and horses said:
I know I'm not answering your question but 2 points for you to consider:

1- Your water rates will go up, alot.

2- Having a pool will dramatically narrow your scope of potential buyers should you wish to sell.
Didn't think of that.

Why though?

1) Apart from filling it, the ongoing water usage shouldn't increase.

2) I would have thought that a pool would be an attractive feature when selling.
The water people assume you will use loads of water - their excuse.

Most people don't want the expense when looking to buy. Running a 20x6m indoor pool cost my grandparents the same as the average mortgage to run. The boiler was huge! When they sold the house they had loads of interested people, all bar 2 parties dropped out because of the pool.

Trust me it was shocking.

eta: They didn't even heat it in the winter. Do remeber you need to treat and hoover it.

Edited by wagon and horses on Tuesday 15th June 20:24
Sorry that's a load of rubbish .

Water costs no more than for anybody else and i use about a bath-full a week to top up a water metre is a must because you will never use as much water as you pay on rates , people who water their lawns with a sprinkler use more water than pool owners .
I use my pool all year round and it costs the same to heat the pool as it costs to heat the house i keep it about 29 degrees . The only other cost is chemicals at about £200 per year .
It cost me about £90 to fill the pool 8 yrs ago and you can get a rebate as you don't need to pay for the sewage on the volume .
You mention a housing , i assume you mean some type of building , mine is single brick with simple timber & tile roof . I would agree an out door pool is an expensive thing to run and you wont use it much .
You can build a block & liner pool for about 10k but the building over will cost 20k +
I agree a pool is not a selling feature but if you are considering one do it for your family not for any value it will add .
Hope that helps .
Dale
Do bear in mind that the heating depends on location (north/south), water volume, ground insulation, age of system, desired water temp, water company etc.

The grandparents were not on a meter - they moved before they became mainstream (no pun intended! water-stream, get it).

I hope you don't need to drain it for repairs (classed as sewerage water?), if its an average size I'd expect a rather large water bill that quarter. Theirs was relined (£7k) and then the refill took about a week.

Basically, speak to the water people and do some gas/boiler maths to make sure.

hyperblue

2,853 posts

203 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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The cost of water is being exaggerated in this thread ... we have a 60,000 litre pool (roughly 10m x 4m x 1.5m) and haven't refilled it once in the last 10 years. Just the occasional top up after vacuuming. Even if we did have to refill it @ ~ 0.20 pence per litre = £120. Not exactly going to break the bank.

FamilyGuy

850 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2010
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I'd agree with the comments about it devaluing your property. We turned down a house with one because it wasn't big enough for any decent swimming but big enough to incur running costs and require safety stuff for our little children. I'd see a decent jacuzzi with a secure thermal lid as an asset or a 25m pool in a lockable room, but a little pool is money badly spent.

Murph7355

40,851 posts

279 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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FamilyGuy said:
I'd agree with the comments about it devaluing your property...
Me too.

Pools are a pain in the arse to look after, and running costs to a property and are rarely sufficiently large to do anything with.

I was in a rented house with one. It was most amusing for the first few months and the young ladies loved it. But it ended up rarely used most of the time.

Johnniem

2,734 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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A natural swimming pool should deal with the problem with selling (and I certainly can agree with that!)

I have no connection with these people but the concept caught my eye. One day I shall have one of these...

http://www.gartenart.co.uk/

Check out the gallery of photos...pretty impressive and supposedly ecological (like we care!! This is Pistonheads after all!)

Hereward

4,889 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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FamilyGuy said:
I'd agree with the comments about it devaluing your property...
I think it depends upon the type/value of the property. At the luxury end of the housing range I would expect a pool.

I agree that a pool taking up half the garden would put people off, but a pool at a property with an acre or more of land would go well.