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I switched over as soon as I saw boring schumi and Barrichello seemingly dominant.....boring!!!!!
watched with pleasure a re-run of the 2003 Bathhurst 24 hour...now that's REAL racing and a damned difficult course too. AWESOME!!!!
I doubt if schumi or Barrichello could do that one, with their highly tuned go-carts.......
watched with pleasure a re-run of the 2003 Bathhurst 24 hour...now that's REAL racing and a damned difficult course too. AWESOME!!!!
I doubt if schumi or Barrichello could do that one, with their highly tuned go-carts.......
JMGS4 said:
I doubt if schumi or Barrichello could do that one, with their highly tuned go-carts.......
Much as though I'm not huge Schumi fan I would say that he would be pretty quick in anything on any track. I for one would love to see the current crop of F1 drivers driving in other stuff, like in the old days when they'd pitch up, do a support race in saloons then the F1 race then Le Mans the next week...
I think MS would be pretty special (one of the few current drivers who has done Le Mans, along with DC)
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It is all too easy to critisise the F1 drivers, but at the end of the day, they are all bloody fantastic at their craft, and the ones at the top are out of this world.
Justin Wilson was giving passenger rides around Bedford on Saturday in the JP1. The talk in the padock didn't once mention the car, just the constant level of extreme skill that Justin was showing husseling the thing around the track.
The passengers were all regular track drivers who understand that F1 driving isn't just about the driver aids, but even for us lot, Justin really did demostrate that he is on a different planet. Not only that - but even though he was applying all the controls at once, the passage around the track was scerene - bloody quick, but sooooo smooth.
After the weekend, I think that only the Hungarian driver really doesn't deserve to be there, looking a bit sluggish compared to everyone else (but still far removed from us mere mortals one suspects).
Having said that though, I don't think that anyone should criticise an F1 drivers skill level until they have actually sat with them.
Justin Wilson was giving passenger rides around Bedford on Saturday in the JP1. The talk in the padock didn't once mention the car, just the constant level of extreme skill that Justin was showing husseling the thing around the track.
The passengers were all regular track drivers who understand that F1 driving isn't just about the driver aids, but even for us lot, Justin really did demostrate that he is on a different planet. Not only that - but even though he was applying all the controls at once, the passage around the track was scerene - bloody quick, but sooooo smooth.
After the weekend, I think that only the Hungarian driver really doesn't deserve to be there, looking a bit sluggish compared to everyone else (but still far removed from us mere mortals one suspects).
Having said that though, I don't think that anyone should criticise an F1 drivers skill level until they have actually sat with them.
i agree the skill of the drivers is top drawer, you should see the likes of bell and moss still drive all the legends at goodwood revival and younger drivers as r smacher and coultard, its just frustrating that half way through the saeson the title has almost been decided (bit like watching arsenal),i shall go to silverstone again this year and still enjoy the biggest circus on earth.
I watched bathurst on tele yesterday, and it does seem like a great circuit, but alas hardly seems like a race! Apart from the mosler, and the lambo, the winners are always going to be the Holdens. they have a 7 litre engine, the rest of the field are running 4 litre or less engines, and Holden throw a shitload of resources into the event, as a showcase for the cars. The rest of the field are celicas, and 320 BMW's!! It's never going to make for exciting racing until they have a field more similar to Le mans, rather than a local club event.
Lapping the entire field by the winner has been done on many occasions in the past. It is not new to F1. The problem is the fact that unpredictability seems to have flown out the window of late (the 2003 season excepted). I do hope that the other teams and /or Michelin get their acts together before Ferrari have romped off into the distance.
I am hopeful that the different climatic conditions which we will expect in Malaysia will reduce Ferrari's apparent superiority.
Ever the optomist I am.
I am hopeful that the different climatic conditions which we will expect in Malaysia will reduce Ferrari's apparent superiority.
Ever the optomist I am.
The Wiz said:
Look its not Ferraris fault that the rest of the teams have failed to match them. Instead of criticising Ferrari we should be asking questions of Williams, Mclaren etc as to why they are so far behind.
Typical British attitude ... if something is successful criticise it.
I've no criticism to offer Ferrari. I do however have severe doubts about the "greatest circus on earth" as another poster has described F1.
I stopped attending the British GP several years ago when the paddock fence just got further and further away from the people and the cars. Put bluntly general spectators are treated with contempt despite the ludicrous cost of a ticket.
Since then I've grown more and more dispirited with the whole 'show'. The racing has been abysmal over the last few years (and no I don't buy into the view that last season was a classic).
The technology may be wonderful but the personalities aren't. And the deal for the fan seems to be that motorsport will sell all of the family silver just for the privilege of lining the pockets of the main players.
As an event for spectators Le Mans beats the British Grand Prix hands down in terms of access, value for money and pure petrolhead spectacle.
If the pure speed and cutting edge technology of F1 is what floats your boat, do yourself a favour and go watch a team or two testing. If you like to watch motor RACING go watch something else entirely
GrahamG said:
I stopped attending the British GP several years ago when the paddock fence just got further and further away from the people and the cars. Put bluntly general spectators are treated with contempt despite the ludicrous cost of a ticket.
I just got back from the Aus GP and that was my main gripe, the contempt for the general admission crowd.
I have always gone in the stands where the tickets start at $400 for 4 days (these are still shite seats) and range all the way up to $4,500 for really good views and service!
I didn't see the value of the stands until I went as GA and found that the organisers were so petty that they even put up boarding in the GA area wherever there was a half reasonable viewing of the track (no seats there mind but a reasonable angle to see the cars actually working instead of just blatting past at 300kph)and the service at the minimal food stalls was pathetic with overpriced and suspect quality.
I will never go to a race again unless I can blag some corporate seats because Joe Public is just treated like scum and it still costs $95 on race day to get treated like this.
What's really needed is a Sunday only corporate facility where I would gladly pay $400 for the day to be tretaed like a human being instead of some fatted calf.
BTW first GP out of the 20 I've attended that Ferrari have won so it was good from that perspective but the race was over before the first lap, it was that obvious at the track
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