RE: Jaguar XFR Vs. Aston Martin Rapide

RE: Jaguar XFR Vs. Aston Martin Rapide

Thursday 27th May 2010

Jaguar XFR Vs. Aston Martin Rapide

PH Fleet: Our Jag went toe-to-toe with Aston's four-door - in pictures, at least



Just before we waved goodbye to our late lamented Jaguar XFR long-termer, we happened to get our grubby mitts on one of the first Aston Martin Rapide models to grace these shores. If you missed it, the Rapide turned up in a shade of metallic silver quite similar to our Jag, which inspired us to put the two side by side for a few pictures.

It's an interesting comparison in many ways, not least because the two cars offer quite different routes to a basically similar result. The Aston is a supercar that's been morphed into a luxury hatchback, while the Jaguar XFR is an executive saloon with aspirations to be a supercar.



Dimensions/construction
In spite of its coupe-like lines, the Jag is more traditionally packaged with a significantly higher roofline, and a narrower, shorter body. The Aston's extra girth and length does nothing for its accommodation, however, as the Jag offers a much roomier cabin for both front and rear passengers. However, we're guessing most people would agree that the Aston's sleek profile makes it one of the few saloons to have the big cat licked for looks.

Under the skin, the Jaguar uses a variety of modern steels and cunning CAD techniques to keep the weight down. The Aston features glued and riveted aluminium extrusions, but the combination of its overall dimensions, bigger engine and all that 'bespoke' luxury make it 60kgs heavier.

  Aston Martin Rapide Jaguar XFR
Length
Width
Height
Wheelbase
Kerb Weight
Drag cX

5019mm
1929mm
1360mm
1989mm
1950kgs
Good question…
4961m
1877mm
1460mm
2909mm
1891kgs
0.290




Powertrain/Performance
When 8 cylinders play 12, you might think the outcome was obvious. Not in this game, where the Jaguar's mighty supercharged V8 out-punches the Aston for both power and torque. The Aston wins on aesthetic grounds, both when you open the bonnet or when you're listening to the engine note as the V12's howl is a lot more exotic than the XFR's V8 growl. Both cars are well served by six-speed automatic gearboxes with paddleshifts and sport modes, but the Aston's rear-transaxle unit aids weight distribution.

  Aston Martin Rapide Jaguar XFR
Engine Capacity
Cylinders
Valves
Max Power
Max Torque
Max Speed
0-60mph
*Standing Kilometre
Combined mpg
5935cc
V12
48
470bhp@6000rpm
442lb ft@5000rpm
188mph
5.1secs
23.9/139.7 secs/mph
19
5000cc
V8
32
510bhp@6000rpm
461lb ft@2500-5000rpm
155mph (limited)

4.7secs
23.2/146.9 secs/mph
22.5

*Autocar road test figures (All others are manufacturer claims)





Rolling chassis
Both our contenders get double-wishbone suspension at both ends with anti-roll bars, and a full complement of electronic driver aids. Whereas the XFR's adaptive dampers are set up to provide little real-world difference between normal and dynamic modes, the Aston offers owners a genuinely split personality. It's a luxurious and refined cruiser or hardcore sports machine with limpet-like grip and supercar-flat cornering that could add up to a significant advantage - on a racetrack. Both feature fabulous brakes and fine steering, but the Aston wins again for ultimate feel.

Across UK roads we suspect there'd be little to separate these two flying machines for pace, but wouldn't you like to see them go head-to-head at a track day with Jaguar's Mike Cross and Aston's Ulrich Bez at the wheel. Anyone want to give us odds on the result?

  Aston Martin Rapide Jaguar XFR
Front Susp
Rear Susp
Front Brakes
Rear Brakes
Wheels
Front Tyres
Rear Tyres
Independent double wishbone
Independent double wishbone
390mm discs
360mm discs
20ins alloy
Bridgestone 245/40 R20
Bridgestone 295/35 R20
Independent double wishbone
Independent double wishbone
380mm discs
376mm discs
20ins alloy
Dunlop 255/35 R20
Dunlop 285/30 R20


Verdict
You pays your money, makes your choice - the money being £62,600 for the Jaguar and £139,950 for the Aston Martin. We'd tell you which one we liked the most if we could, but for once the usually agreeable PH office was split right down the middle.

But, that's a total cop-out, so I'm controversially using my casting vote to give it to the Jaguar XFR as the better all-rounder at less than half the price. Obvious, innit..?






Author
Discussion

E21_Ross

Original Poster:

35,707 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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2 very nice cars. i prefer the aston's interior, and i think it looks slightly better but the price difference is an awful lot.

money no object i'd pick the aston simply because i like it, but i'd happily settle for the jag smile

if i could afford either that it hehe

MogulBoy

2,989 posts

230 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Jag's wheelbase looks a bit odd! 2909mm!

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Granted I've not driven the rapide, but what is the point of having 4 more cylinders and an extra litre of engine displacement when its 40bhp down on the V8 Jag?

(Aside from the noise of course.. which thinking about it could be all the reason you need)

Olf

11,974 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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"we happened to get our grubby mitts on one of the first Aston Martin Rapide models to grace these shores."

Where's the Rapide built then?

kambites

68,437 posts

228 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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MogulBoy said:
Jag's wheelbase looks a bit odd! 2909mm!
Not as odd as the Aston's at 1989mm!

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Olf said:
"we happened to get our grubby mitts on one of the first Aston Martin Rapide models to grace these shores."

Where's the Rapide built then?
Austria - at Magna. Sehr Gut etc.

Let's see the in gear acceleration times please... I think the Jag kicks sand in the Astons face hehe

monthefish

20,456 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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I always thought the new Jag XJ might give the Rapide a bit of a 'doing' in a comparison test, but didn't expect the XF to give it such a hard time - good article.

I suppose it's back to the old situation - most of us would rather spend our £150k on an Jag XFR AND a 911/Vantage, but I suppose the potential market for the Rapide could probably afford both anyway.

pistonlager

710 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Pointless, Hacks have been comparing these two marques since the 50's.
Simply put, the well off have a Jag and the rich have an Aston.
Personally I think the worst thing Jag did was ditch the V12.


monthefish

20,456 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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pistonlager said:
Pointless, Hacks have been comparing these two marques since the 50's.
Simply put, the well off have a Jag and the rich have an Aston.
And those that want to get to 60 in under 5 seconds will have the Jag...

canam-phil

489 posts

266 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Aston Martin quote 2989 as wheelbase. Some of the other quoted figures for both cars are wrong as well.


anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Swooooon. Rapides are gorgeous, seen a few around here. Oxfordshire is a great place to live for seeing cars biggrin

ETA: It's horribly confusing having the text not line up with the correct car, or vice versa.

Edited by MSTRBKR on Thursday 27th May 10:59

monthefish

20,456 posts

238 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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MSTRBKR said:
ETA: It's horribly confusing having the text not line up with the correct car, or vice versa.
I thought so too...

Targarama

14,661 posts

290 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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'metallic silver' - you mean grey.

Zod

35,295 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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I should be test-driving the Rapide soon.

I've been doing a lot of thinking about cars recently; in particular the Rapide, F10 M5 (not due until 2012) and XFR (despite the awful, awful headlights). It now looks as if a little complication is coming along early next year that will make the Rapide a definite non-runner and I'm going to have to do some serious investigation of the others to see whether there is any possibility of fitting three child seats - it looks rather too tight in the current M5.

I've even started to have some really quite odd thoughts, such as a 760 or B7, but there are none for sale anywhere, or, heresy of heresies, an X5 M, but that isn't available with a third row of seats. Will an X5 rear seat take three child seats?

dubbs

1,590 posts

291 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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An FFRR S/C does smile

I've only done it once in mine though, normally only need one plus plenty of legroom for the teenager!

Dagnut

3,515 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Lot of mistakes in that article.

Its quite simple it comes down to prestige, and exclusivity. The XFR has far more interior room which is the whole point of a big saloon without big rear seats it makes absolutely no sense at all...unless of course you want a car that's not as fast as DB9, not as good looking, handles worse and is likely to depreciate faster.

ewenm

28,506 posts

252 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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Both lovely cars and yes, the XFR is the sensible, objective choice... but who buys cars purely objectively? There needs to be an emotional response as well, for me at least. Again, for me, both these cars elicit that sort of response, so the choice would still be difficult.

Zod

35,295 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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dubbs said:
An FFRR S/C does smile

I've only done it once in mine though, normally only need one plus plenty of legroom for the teenager!
FFRR S/C?

Ful Fat supercharged Range Rover?

Is the rear seat that big? I have to say that hadn't occurred to me.

Edited by Zod on Thursday 27th May 12:25

soad

33,453 posts

183 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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TheRoadWarrior said:
Granted I've not driven the rapide, but what is the point of having 4 more cylinders and an extra litre of engine displacement when its 40bhp down on the V8 Jag?
I was thinking that too, plus it's more than twice the cost of buying a Jag!

Nice motor though.

Zod

35,295 posts

265 months

Thursday 27th May 2010
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soad said:
TheRoadWarrior said:
Granted I've not driven the rapide, but what is the point of having 4 more cylinders and an extra litre of engine displacement when its 40bhp down on the V8 Jag?
I was thinking that too, plus it's more than twice the cost of buying a Jag!

Nice motor though.
You don't buy Astons with your head, believe me. I thought the same way for years, but then I had one for a week.