Elise S1 Wheel Specs..
Discussion
I've got a couple of Elise S1 (111s OZ 5.5"x15" 6-spoke) wheels that someone seems to have sanded the bores on!!!
What should the original wheel (not disc) bore be for reference?
Also are they supposed to be staggered, or are the front and rear wheels the same?
Cheers!!!
What should the original wheel (not disc) bore be for reference?
Also are they supposed to be staggered, or are the front and rear wheels the same?
Cheers!!!
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 17:22
Hmmmm....well I've got 4-off 15's (all the same width and offset as well) and they have all had the bore opened up by several mm (not by me!!!!).
The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:01
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:02
Keri said:
Hmmmm....well I've got 4-off 15's (all the same width and offset as well) and they have all had the bore opened up by several mm (not by me!!!!).
The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
Ummmm back on ebay with them I reckon The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:01
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:02
lamb jiblets said:
Keri said:
Hmmmm....well I've got 4-off 15's (all the same width and offset as well) and they have all had the bore opened up by several mm (not by me!!!!).
The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
Ummmm back on ebay with them I reckon The guy I got them from had them on a Civic or something (wrong PCD as well), looks like he butchered four front S1 wheels to fit then?
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:01
Edited by Keri on Wednesday 26th May 21:02
I just put them up there for the scrap value and detailing all the nasty bits, with luck someone can use them (or one or two of them) - be a shame to see them turned into tin cans when a bit of machine-access DIY could see them restored! :-(
you should also consider that every wheel is designed for an application, part of that is the static and dynamic loads they will have to cope with, the Elise front only has to support a relatively light load, I would not want to bolt it to a front wheel drive 1 tonne+ box, they are not exactly strong to start with...
I'm guessing you mean the inner circumference has been enlarged for brake clearance or something, or enlarged the wheel nut holes?
Seems like a crazy thing to do, making them weaker etc. There must be alternatives out there that would work for a civic, seems a shame and a waste.
How and where were they advertised? If there was no mention of said butchering then can they not be returned for mis-description, safety and fit for purpose reasons?
Some people
Seems like a crazy thing to do, making them weaker etc. There must be alternatives out there that would work for a civic, seems a shame and a waste.
How and where were they advertised? If there was no mention of said butchering then can they not be returned for mis-description, safety and fit for purpose reasons?
Some people
Edited by MiniDiva on Friday 28th May 07:55
I personally don't agree with mix matching wheels. As said above, the Elise wheels are designed for use on an Elise. Elise wheels on an MR2? Why exactly? The only car which justifiably should have another mark's shoes on is the Audi RS2 (which sports Porsche wheels).
Whenever I see old BMW's with newer marque BMW wheels on I always wonder why they bother. It's that particular model - if you want the newer model then save up and buy it. Nobody is going to be fooled!
Whenever I see old BMW's with newer marque BMW wheels on I always wonder why they bother. It's that particular model - if you want the newer model then save up and buy it. Nobody is going to be fooled!
Scuffers said:
you should also consider that every wheel is designed for an application, part of that is the static and dynamic loads they will have to cope with, the Elise front only has to support a relatively light load, I would not want to bolt it to a front wheel drive 1 tonne+ box, they are not exactly strong to start with...
I agree, each wheel has a 200kg rating on the back. I would have been happy with them on my Mk1 MR2 (planned stripped out/gf panels) and something like an Uno Turbo (800kg ish std) would be ok as well.jrchannon said:
I personally don't agree with mix matching wheels. As said above, the Elise wheels are designed for use on an Elise. Elise wheels on an MR2? Why exactly? The only car which justifiably should have another mark's shoes on is the Audi RS2 (which sports Porsche wheels).
Whenever I see old BMW's with newer marque BMW wheels on I always wonder why they bother. It's that particular model - if you want the newer model then save up and buy it. Nobody is going to be fooled!
Why put them on an MR2? Cheap lightweight OZ wheels had it worked out, no other reason.Whenever I see old BMW's with newer marque BMW wheels on I always wonder why they bother. It's that particular model - if you want the newer model then save up and buy it. Nobody is going to be fooled!
I wouldn't have been trying (or wanting!!!) to make an MR2 look like an Elise, don't worry! :-)
MiniDiva said:
I'm guessing you mean the inner circumference has been enlarged for brake clearance or something, or enlarged the wheel nut holes?
Seems like a crazy thing to do, making them weaker etc. There must be alternatives out there that would work for a civic, seems a shame and a waste.
How and where were they advertised? If there was no mention of said butchering then can they not be returned for mis-description, safety and fit for purpose reasons?
Some people
They were sold to me as "alloys from my Civic" or something - I've had them for over a year so too late to moan. I grabbed them when I recognised them.Seems like a crazy thing to do, making them weaker etc. There must be alternatives out there that would work for a civic, seems a shame and a waste.
How and where were they advertised? If there was no mention of said butchering then can they not be returned for mis-description, safety and fit for purpose reasons?
Some people
Edited by MiniDiva on Friday 28th May 07:55
The part that's been sanded is the bore that locates the wheel on the hub, annoying but not load-bearing once the wheel is tightened (the 1-2mm missing ridge is the part that aftermarket alloys use a plastic ring for!)
An MR2 with Elise wheels is going to look exactly just like that "an MR2 with Elise wheels".
Buying OZ alloys is rather a different kettle of fish - they're not blatantly off another make or model of car.
If you're going to modify a car, although not my particular cup of tea, then fair enough. Go buy some after market alloys which suit your particular modification. Taking stock wheels off one model and putting them onto another model (whether modified or not), in my personal view, just looks silly.
Reasons as stated above by Scuffers and also purely from an aesthetic point of view as it rarely "works". As I said - the Audi RS2 being the very clear exception to that rule (there may be some others but I can't think of any right now).
Buying OZ alloys is rather a different kettle of fish - they're not blatantly off another make or model of car.
If you're going to modify a car, although not my particular cup of tea, then fair enough. Go buy some after market alloys which suit your particular modification. Taking stock wheels off one model and putting them onto another model (whether modified or not), in my personal view, just looks silly.
Reasons as stated above by Scuffers and also purely from an aesthetic point of view as it rarely "works". As I said - the Audi RS2 being the very clear exception to that rule (there may be some others but I can't think of any right now).
I would probably have sprayed them matt black if I'd used them, not interested in the visuals (Elise or not) - it's the handling I care about. So they were just a cheap/light set of wheels to me....turned out the offset is different anyway so it was a no-go! :-)
Re the bore being load bearing, that's untrue and a common misconception - as well as there being nothing special about the Elise setup. The bore on the wheel and disc are there to align them to the hub before the wheel nuts are done up.
Once they are done up the rotational and side (shear) loads are all taken by the mating faces of the wheel>disc>hub.
Re the bore being load bearing, that's untrue and a common misconception - as well as there being nothing special about the Elise setup. The bore on the wheel and disc are there to align them to the hub before the wheel nuts are done up.
Once they are done up the rotational and side (shear) loads are all taken by the mating faces of the wheel>disc>hub.
Edited by Keri on Friday 28th May 14:25
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