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WEREWOLF

Original Poster:

581 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Quick newbie question....if i plan to do some post pic editing...just been given PH Elements 7...would i be better off taking shots in camera raw..?


Simpo Two

92,807 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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RAW is always better, but can be more cumbersome depending on your software and what you want to do. Before starting, make sure that the software will open your RAW files - there are infinite different kinds.

Note that you process a RAW to another file format, typically JPG; you don't save it as another RAW.

S47

1,356 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Hi - I'd use RAW when the lighting conditions are difficult eg.[dawn or dusk] and H/Quality JPEG during daylight hours.
Modern cameras are so good at AWB, and having pay'd out for one it's a shame to not use 'em to their full potential.
Undoubtably others will dis-agree with what I've said, but why not try biggrin

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

227 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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I am definitely not an expert when it comes to photography but recently have switched to recording RAW+JPEG together and I am definitely impressed with the increase in quality of my pictures in terms of less noise.
Coupled with the new CS5 Adobe Camera RAW noise algorithms the pictures are so much clearer.
I am thinking of going back and redoing old photos because of the improvement.

What I suggest is do some testing and take the same picture in both formats and compare the differences. As long as your Pc is not really old or slow like a Celeron you should be ok in terms of processing power.

GetCarter

31,263 posts

309 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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RAW+JPEG

HTH

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Just Raw smile

Dogsey

4,301 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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4hero said:
Just Raw smile

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Dogsey said:
4hero said:
Just Raw smile
Just my opinion smile Never felt the need to shoot both!

flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

233 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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I'm not saying cos this normally turns into a shouting match over 8 pages hehe




....but I'll just say ( wink ) that unless you need quick turnaround in your images - such as press / sports images, or if you have limited space to store your photos (buy more cards!) then some people might suggest that RAW is the way to go...

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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All you needed to say mate was the last 5 words:

RAW is the way to go

hehe

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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I am a total newcomer to dslr but was surprised when Canons packaged DPP showed the images I'd taken in raw as JPEG...

well completely confused actually hehe

any clues folks??

Mo.

paul911

2,771 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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RAW & JPG for me.

Annoyingly PSP won’t see the RAW CR2 file when taken with my 50D. But will see the CR2 if taken with the 350D, no idea why! confused So I brows the JPG’s to see which one I like then convert the chosen RAW to TIFF and play around. I don’t bother batch converting all the RAWs as it takes hours and I’m impatient. biggrin

Pretty sure the response you will get is 99% use RAW.

ivaylo

43 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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It depends. Some cameras produce very good jpegs. Mine isn't one of them though.

Dave^

7,896 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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That's 6 words...

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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Dave^ said:
That's 6 words...
Counting was never my strong point wink

RAW (is that 3 letters?)

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

227 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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lol nice to see the pros look down on an amateur.
I shot both so I could compare the same shot.
We all know you guys use the best gear and get better pics than most people because you are better than everyone.
Now I know how much kudos is a attached to RAW I shall never let the devil's J word pass my lips again.

Dave^

7,896 posts

283 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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hehe

Simpo Two

92,807 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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paul911 said:
Annoyingly PSP won’t see the RAW CR2 file when taken with my 50D. But will see the CR2 if taken with the 350D, no idea why! confused
As mentioned before, the RAW files are slightly different - the 350D is older than the 50D and your software was written in-between. Every time a maker brings out a new model, the RAW files change. That's why you need to test and keep up to speed, or you could end up with a load of photos you can't process.

4hero

4,505 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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The_Jackal said:
lol nice to see the pros look down on an amateur.
I shot both so I could compare the same shot.
We all know you guys use the best gear and get better pics than most people because you are better than everyone.
Now I know how much kudos is a attached to RAW I shall never let the devil's J word pass my lips again.
come on man, if you are happy with jpeg then it really isn't a problem. No one is looking down on anyone. If you are happy, I'm happy that you are happy. Let's all be friends (not make love or anything though, you ain't my type hehe)

Simpo Two

92,807 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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The_Jackal said:
lol nice to see the pros look down on an amateur.
I shot both so I could compare the same shot.
We all know you guys use the best gear and get better pics than most people because you are better than everyone.
Now I know how much kudos is a attached to RAW I shall never let the devil's J word pass my lips again.
I shoot RAW for paid work and for when I'm fussy about results, and JPG for snaps such as 'this is my car/garden/cat etc'. Horses for courses as they say.

Saying 'I shot both so I could compare the same shot' is pointless because the JPG has already been automatically processed in-camera, while the RAW is waiting as data for you to do something with it. Hence you can't copmpare them, any more than you can compare a loaf of bread with a lump of dough.

There's nothing wrong with JPG, it's just less flexible because information has been thrown away. For many everyday uses JPG is fine; if you're happy with it there's no need to fret about RAW smile