London Bendy Bus. Phased out?
London Bendy Bus. Phased out?
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Morningside

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24,147 posts

258 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Not sure if this is the right section to post.

Anyhow. These bendy busses. I thought Boris was going to phase them all out? Yet, I saw quite a few during the Governmental changeover when the media was in a filming frenzy from helicopters.


rpguk

4,515 posts

313 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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I'd imagine it'll take a long time and they'll be replaced with double deckers as they come to the end of their life rather then just being taken off the road.

There will be lease terms that can't be navigated without great expense and I can't imagine there is a market for second hand RHD bendy buses on the scale that would be required to get rid of them without making great losses.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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No buyers, IIRC; they'll have to go the slow way.

Morningside

Original Poster:

24,147 posts

258 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Ah I see. So they are not going to be 'disposed' of. Rather just wait for end of life...That could be YEARS!

No overseas market? Then again, a bit of a loss being RHD.

shakotan

10,862 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Morningside said:
Not sure if this is the right section to post.

Anyhow. These bendy busses. I thought Boris was going to phase them all out? Yet, I saw quite a few during the Governmental changeover when the media was in a filming frenzy from helicopters.
How long have bendy buses been around? Three years? Four? Imagine the amount of money 'wasted' simply getting rid of four year old buses and buying brand new ones. Where's the money going to come from?

Be serious for a second, eh!

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

262 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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shakotan said:
Imagine the amount of money 'wasted' simply getting rid of four year old buses and buying brand new ones.
It wouldn't be a waste if there was a buyer; those bendy buses were expensive and aren't working well here, selling and replacing them is not automatically a bad plan. The problem is that there are no buyers- the cities that would want them want LHD and largely have them already.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Saturday 15th May 2010
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Introduced in June 2002: I think Malta might be buying some, but...

n August 2008, following the election of Boris Johnson as Mayor of London, it was announced the bendy buses would be withdrawn as their 5 year operating contracts came to an end, starting from May 2009, and completed by 2013 (or 2015 depending on contract extensions).

Research by London TravelWatch has indicated that such a withdrawal could prove costly to TfL. A study conducted in September 2008 found that replacing articulated vehicles on routes 38, 507, and 521, whilst maintaining overall route capacity, would cost an additional £12.6m per annum, due to the additional vehicles necessitated.

109er

433 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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I know that they have all gone now but, moan as a lot of
people did about, thank yourself lucky they weren't these
triple unitseek


Happy Shopper

19 posts

165 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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We've inherited some of them in Brighton on the university routes.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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They haven't totally gone. Saw a rail replacement bendy the other day.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Thought they'd gone to Malta...

Saw one a while ago, liveried up in Megabus colours, M1 southbound, Glasgow to London, in the middle of the night.

The rear half was wandering about like a demented caravan.

Bet there was a goodly bit of travel vomit blowing about in there.

gazza285

11,164 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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There's a couple knocking about at Stansted Airport, between the car parks and the terminal.

109er

433 posts

159 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
Saw one a while ago, liveried up in Megabus colours, M1 southbound, Glasgow to London, in the middle of the night.
The rear half was wandering about like a demented caravan.
Two salient points mentioned there.
The Bendy Bus was designed for LOW speed commuting in towns (mainly London)
and not designed for high speed long distance travel.

The remark 'like a demented caravan' is correct.
If you think about it, a Bendy Bus is virtually an open backed van towing
an opened fronted caravan with a bit of 'rubber tubing and an articulated floor'
between them.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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It wasn't designed for London at all - that was the problem. Ze Germans and the French - whose major towns tend to have wider and straighter roads than London, never mind better segregated cycling space - have had them for many years.

Hugo a Gogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Megabus sleepers are proper Jonckheere/Volvo coaches with a bendy bit
they are not London Citaro bendy buses

Smartboy

232 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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There are a few operating the Bristol Park-n-ride. Assume these 03-04 plate busses were 2nd hand London ones.
Careful planning required before attempting a rush-hour overtake on my MTB!

BerksJack

1,155 posts

195 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Swansea council bought some of them aswell.

StevenB

783 posts

226 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Smartboy said:
There are a few operating the Bristol Park-n-ride. Assume these 03-04 plate busses were 2nd hand London ones.
Careful planning required before attempting a rush-hour overtake on my MTB!
Yep, definitely ex-London ones. They're a fking pain to get around.