Best Oil ?

[tonyrec]

Anyone recommend the best oil to use in an 02 model Fireblade?

[stooz]

arghhh! been discussing this in depth for so long elsewhere, ive gone blind!!

didnt know you were a biker tony?

basically just get the right "type" as per your service manual eg synth or fully synth, then 10w/50w etc.

as for the brand, there is very little in them
mobil
castrol
silkolene etc..

[tonyrec]

Stu,
Just returned to the Biker scene, although i do ride them at work.

[fergus]

make sure you get the right JASO or SAE type as per your manual. Make sure you get an oil with/without friction reducers (as per your manual). The make is not important. As long as the JASO/SAE status is OK, you may as well go for the cheapest.

PS Tony - does your work bike have blue lights? A quick question - if you arrest someone for dangerous driving, (an indictable offence) do you need to radio this in following an arrest, or do you just fill the paperwork in at the station? There is a very fine line legally between careless and dangerous driving (all in the definition of 'below' or 'well below' a reasonable persons' standards....)

Thanks

>> Edited by fergus on Wednesday 3rd March 13:40

[barry sheene]

Here's some info from the Tiger FAQ at www.tigerlist.org/

We're always asked about the best oild so I cobbled togethor this....sorry if it's a bit long

16. What Oil should I be using ?

From: dper <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2001 8:33 pm


After much perusing of web articles and rider testimonials, I had
decided I would use Mobil 1 car oil in my new Tiger. But the fellow
who checked me out from the dealer said this was a no-no, that a
motorcycle-specific oil is required.



The manual says "Semi or fully synthetic 10W-40 motorcycle oil which
meets API SH specification" and recommends Mobil 1 Racing 4T at $45
per gallon, but I see nothing in the warranty book that demands oil
with "motorcycle" on the label.

Certainly Mobil 1 synth SJ (which meets both SH and SG spec) car oil
is better than a typical semi-synth SH 'motorcycle' oil and
shear-strength tests have proved it. Until recently I didn't know
there were MC-specific oils and have used Castrol GTX 20W-50 car oil
in 3 previous bikes with never a clutch or shift problem.


From: "Rob Tayloe" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon Oct 8, 2001 7:59 pm
--- In TriumphTiger@y..., "Lance Renshaw" <LRenshaw@w...> wrote:
> From what I understand, the Mobil 1 for cars has a much higher
> level of molydnium in it than the motorcycle oil...moly being
> a friction reducing agent...<snip>

Motorcycle Consumers' News (MCN) did a comparison of various oils
a while back. The comparison included having the oils tested
for elements used as extreme pressure and corrosion resistance
additives.

The Mobil 1 motorcycle oils had essentially the same additive
package as did the car oils.

I've been using Mobil 1 15W-50 synthetic oil in my 99 Tiger
and 96 T'bird (and a few other bikes). No problems and no
clutch slippage. As an interesting side note; when the T'bird
was quite new, with under 1000 miles, I put the Triumph Mobil
Racing oil in the bike. I did feel the clutch slip and dumped
the oil even though the oil was used for less than 50 miles.
I then used Golden Spectro 20W-50 semi-synth oil for a few years.
Last year I decided to give Mobil 1 car oil a go. As I said
no problems.

The relevant issues of MCN regarding the oil testing are:

Vol. 31, No. 8, Aug 2000; Vol. 31, No. 10, Oct 2000; and

Vol. 31, No. 11, Nov 2000.

The web page for mcn is www.mcnews.com/

From: "Erik Astrup" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri Oct 5, 2001 11:00 pm
>I phoned Mobil and talked with a tech rep who had the same argument.
>All Mobil 1 car oils are now 'energy-conserving' oils, not just the
>low-viscosity ones.

The last bottle of 15/50 I looked at this past weekend was not
rated "EC". And Mobil's own product spec sheet says it's not.

This is a huge URL -

https://dallnd6.dal.mobil.com/GIS/MobilPDS.nsf/26b7c4b33367a4a086256665004e4266/9337c5cedcf5e32e852567b60056db77?OpenDocument


The table on the page clearly shows 15/50 not rated "EC". Go figure.

From: Blake Mantel <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat Oct 6, 2001 2:09 am

Lance Renshaw wrote:

> >From what I understand, the Mobil 1 for cars has a much higher level of
> molydnium in it than the motorcycle oil...moly being a friction reducing
> agent...apparently it collects in motorcycle clutches and causes some to
> slip, hence the motorcycle-specific blend of Mobil 1 with less moly in it...
> Lance Renshaw

Sorry Lance, but it aint so....
BTW I have used Mobil1 15w-50 all year long (Connecticut winters too!) since
mile 300.

- Is This The Right Oil For MyBike
[url]www.ibmwr.org/otech/oilreport.html[/url]



- The Great Oil Debate

[url]http://ericgorr.com/mototech/mototech_june_1999.htm[/url]



- Gasoline Octane for your VFR (an oil report, really)
www.yft.org/tex_vfr/tech/oil.htm



- Motorcycle Oils vs Automotive Oils

[url]www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm[/url]


>> Edited by barry sheene on Wednesday 3rd March 15:59

[tonyrec]

Thanks for all the info.

[veetwin]

Shell Advance Ultra fully synth 10W/40