A380 Shorthaul Service.

[thatone1967]

Apparently Air France are to use an A380 on the LHR-CDG Route this year.. a great opportunity for enthusiasts I would say!

http://www.heathrow-london.co.uk/airport/news/lond...

[JRM]

I thought you were asking for help to carry out a maintenance service on an A380

[thatone1967]

JRM said:

I thought you were asking for help to carry out a maintenance service on an A380

lol

[Eric Mc]

Bring your own ladders.

[JRM]

I've got a decent socket set you can borrow and one of those Bosch electric screwdrivers

[Mojocvh]

Hmm same idea as lufty are doing with their birds

[Simpo Two]

JRM said:

I've got a decent socket set you can borrow and one of those Bosch electric screwdrivers

Don't forget to get the book stamped!

[Tango13]

Simpo Two said:

JRM said:

I've got a decent socket set you can borrow and one of those Bosch electric screwdrivers

Don't forget to get the book stamped!

It'll need new disks and pads at that mileage Sir and the cambelt needs looking at too!

[Engineer1]

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

[thatone1967]

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

It's not a permament thing... it's for crew training and because the aircraft would other wise be standing idle for 18 hours.

[TimJMS]

That had more to do with incorrect bulkhead repair procedure.

[Eric Mc]

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

No. They used speciallly beefed up 747SRs for nearly 20 yaers.

As has been mentioned, the accident they suffered was due to an incorrect pressure bulkhead repair and was anot a flaw in teh basic concept.

[Jonny671]

Tempting to just go for a flight over to France for a go on one of these

[anonymous-user]

Eric Mc said:

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

No. They used speciallly beefed up 747SRs for nearly 20 yaers.

As has been mentioned, the accident they suffered was due to an incorrect pressure bulkhead repair and was anot a flaw in teh basic concept.

I suppose it depends on what the fuselage is made from. Composite fuselage aircraft like the 787 might not be suitable short sector aircraft in the long term due to pressurisation cycles. The a380 fuselage is largely aluminium isn't it?

[Mojocvh]

el stovey said:

Eric Mc said:

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

No. They used speciallly beefed up 747SRs for nearly 20 yaers.

As has been mentioned, the accident they suffered was due to an incorrect pressure bulkhead repair and was anot a flaw in teh basic concept.

I suppose it depends on what the fuselage is made from. Composite fuselage aircraft like the 787 might not be suitable short sector aircraft in the long term due to pressurisation cycles. The a380 fuselage is largely aluminium isn't it?

Not really.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380#Advanced_...

Advanced materials

A380 taking off at the Paris Air Show

While most of the fuselage is aluminium, composite materials comprise more than 20% of the A380's airframe.[103] Carbon-fibre reinforced plastic, glass-fibre reinforced plastic and quartz-fibre reinforced plastic are used extensively in wings, fuselage sections (such as the undercarriage and rear end of fuselage), tail surfaces, and doors.[104][105][106] The A380 is the first commercial airliner to have a central wing box made of carbon fibre reinforced plastic. It is also the first to have a smoothly contoured wing cross section. The wings of other commercial airliners are partitioned span-wise into sections. This flowing, continuous cross section optimises aerodynamic efficiency. Thermoplastics are used in the leading edges of the slats.[107] The new material GLARE (GLAss-REinforced fibre metal laminate) is used in the upper fuselage and on the stabilizers' leading edges.[108] This aluminium-glass-fibre laminate is lighter and has better corrosion and impact resistance than conventional aluminium alloys used in aviation.[109] Unlike earlier composite materials, it can be repaired using conventional aluminium repair techniques.[110] Newer weldable aluminium alloys are also used. This enables the widespread use of laser beam welding manufacturing techniques — eliminating rows of rivets and resulting in a lighter, stronger structure.[111]

Edited by Mojocvh on Friday 14th May 13:34

[anonymous-user]

Mojocvh said:

el stovey said:

Eric Mc said:

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

No. They used speciallly beefed up 747SRs for nearly 20 yaers.

As has been mentioned, the accident they suffered was due to an incorrect pressure bulkhead repair and was anot a flaw in teh basic concept.

I suppose it depends on what the fuselage is made from. Composite fuselage aircraft like the 787 might not be suitable short sector aircraft in the long term due to pressurisation cycles. The a380 fuselage is largely aluminium isn't it?

Not really.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380#Advanced_...

Advanced materials

A380 taking off at the Paris Air Show

While most of the fuselage is aluminium, composite materials comprise more than 20% of the A380's airframe.[103] Carbon-fibre reinforced plastic, glass-fibre reinforced plastic and quartz-fibre reinforced plastic are used extensively in wings, fuselage sections (such as the undercarriage and rear end of fuselage), tail surfaces, and doors.[104][105][106] The A380 is the first commercial airliner to have a central wing box made of carbon fibre reinforced plastic. It is also the first to have a smoothly contoured wing cross section. The wings of other commercial airliners are partitioned span-wise into sections. This flowing, continuous cross section optimises aerodynamic efficiency. Thermoplastics are used in the leading edges of the slats.[107] The new material GLARE (GLAss-REinforced fibre metal laminate) is used in the upper fuselage and on the stabilizers' leading edges.[108] This aluminium-glass-fibre laminate is lighter and has better corrosion and impact resistance than conventional aluminium alloys used in aviation.[109] Unlike earlier composite materials, it can be repaired using conventional aluminium repair techniques.[110] Newer weldable aluminium alloys are also used. This enables the widespread use of laser beam welding manufacturing techniques — eliminating rows of rivets and resulting in a lighter, stronger structure.[111]

[Mojocvh]

el stovey said:

Mojocvh said:

el stovey said:

Eric Mc said:

Engineer1 said:

Didn't Japanese Airlines work out the hard way that big planes aren't good for short hops.

No. They used speciallly beefed up 747SRs for nearly 20 yaers.

As has been mentioned, the accident they suffered was due to an incorrect pressure bulkhead repair and was anot a flaw in teh basic concept.

I suppose it depends on what the fuselage is made from. Composite fuselage aircraft like the 787 might not be suitable short sector aircraft in the long term due to pressurisation cycles. The a380 fuselage is largely aluminium isn't it?

Not really.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A380#Advanced_...

Advanced materials

A380 taking off at the Paris Air Show

While most of the fuselage is aluminium, composite materials comprise more than 20% of the A380's airframe.[103] Carbon-fibre reinforced plastic, glass-fibre reinforced plastic and quartz-fibre reinforced plastic are used extensively in wings, fuselage sections (such as the undercarriage and rear end of fuselage), tail surfaces, and doors.[104][105][106] The A380 is the first commercial airliner to have a central wing box made of carbon fibre reinforced plastic. It is also the first to have a smoothly contoured wing cross section. The wings of other commercial airliners are partitioned span-wise into sections. This flowing, continuous cross section optimises aerodynamic efficiency. Thermoplastics are used in the leading edges of the slats.[107] The new material GLARE (GLAss-REinforced fibre metal laminate) is used in the upper fuselage and on the stabilizers' leading edges.[108] This aluminium-glass-fibre laminate is lighter and has better corrosion and impact resistance than conventional aluminium alloys used in aviation.[109] Unlike earlier composite materials, it can be repaired using conventional aluminium repair techniques.[110] Newer weldable aluminium alloys are also used. This enables the widespread use of laser beam welding manufacturing techniques — eliminating rows of rivets and resulting in a lighter, stronger structure.[111]

OK here you go, sorry can't access any AB stuff.

[anonymous-user]

Mojo. i'm not sure what your point is.

I said the A380 fuselage was "largely aluminium".

You replied "not really" and posted a wiki link which started with the phrase "While most of the fuselage is aluminium"

Now you post a picture of the A380 showing the fuselage to be again largely aluminium?

[JuniorD]

el stovey said:

Mojo. i'm not sure what your point is.

I said the A380 fuselage was "largely aluminium".

You replied "not really" and posted a wiki link which started with the phrase "While most of the fuselage is aluminium"

Now you post a picture of the A380 showing the fuselage to be again largely aluminium?

aye, and that stuff Glare is made from aluminium too IIRC?

[anonymous-user]

JuniorD said:

el stovey said:

Mojo. i'm not sure what your point is.

I said the A380 fuselage was "largely aluminium".

You replied "not really" and posted a wiki link which started with the phrase "While most of the fuselage is aluminium"

Now you post a picture of the A380 showing the fuselage to be again largely aluminium?

aye, and that stuff Glare is made from aluminium too IIRC?

Yes, the A380 fuselage is "Largely aluminium".

Or am I missing something