Is my greenhouse too hot?
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RizzoTheRat

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Monday 26th April 2010
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It's my first year with a greenhouse, so I'm still learning. I've got a load of veggies in there that I plan to plant out once night are warmer, but some are starting to look a little unhappy. A lot of leaves are looking as though they might be scorched. Is this due to it being too warm, to much sun, or due to some cold nights? It's currently about 26 degrees in there and I don't think it's been above 30 (one window on automatic and we open the other one during the day), and it gets the sun from early afternoon through to the evening.

As an example here's a slightly blury photo of a squash. The courgettes are showing similar symptoms too,


Busamav

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230 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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It is our first year with a greenhouse too , working from home I get to check it whenever I fancy a cuppa , it is incredibly hot in there during the afternoon .

I have been opening the door and a rooflight during the day , plus watering everything well.

Dahlias have come on a storm in there , I dug them up from the flower bed to see if I had lost any this winter and just boxed them up to give them a good start .

RizzoTheRat

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Monday 26th April 2010
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Doing a bit of reading up on greenhouse, and some books are suggesting it should be up to a maximum of 20 degrees at this time of year, so I guess I should put some shading up, I wasn't expecting to have to to that util the summer.

Olf

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240 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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First things first - Is your's one of the new fangled glass types that get too hot even in spring or is it actually green as it should be?

RizzoTheRat

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Monday 26th April 2010
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Well it's a bit dusty but it's standard horticultural glass.

Simpo Two

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287 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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I'd get some shading up. It's damn hot under glass - think what a car's like when it's been in the sun - temperate plants aren't designed to deal with that.

Shaolin

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211 months

Monday 26th April 2010
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That looks like sun scorch to me rather than temperature. Get some blinds or move the more sensitive plants where they don't get direct sun.

Aviz

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191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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We have these on our roof windows. Maybe worth a look for a bit of automatic temperature control ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BAYLISS-XL-AUTO-VENT-AUTOMAT...

RizzoTheRat

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Tuesday 27th April 2010
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O've got one window with one of them fitted, the other window is currently manual but I think I might add another automatic opener to it.

I'm thinking I'll paint some shading on the outside to keep the sun off a bit. when Iw as a kid my father used to use a flour and water mix, anyone tried this or are the proper shop bought shading paints better?

Dr_Rick

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270 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Watered down white emulsion paint does the trick. Well my grandparents greenhouse didn't suffer from using this technique.

Dr Rick

Zeek

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226 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Hang some bubble wrap inside if you have some, and remember to open the door a bit too - or a second window to provide circulation.

racing green

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195 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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A lot depends on the size of greenhouse - can you give us some idea? Have to say that 26 is warm but light levels are a big issue as has been mentioned.

RizzoTheRat

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Tuesday 27th April 2010
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It's a 10'x6' with 2 roof windows. As a temporary measure I've painted some of the southern side and roof panes with a bit of tescos value self raising mixed with water. Currently shows 25 degrees in there. Both windows are wide open and I've just opened the door about an inch to see if that draws air through better. If I'm going to leave the door open in the day I'll have to rig up some netting to keep the neighbours cats out.

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Tuesday 27th April 15:00

racing green

537 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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As I thought, small greenhouses heat up quickly, cool down quickly. Its much more difficult to keep an even temp in them and subsequently plants are much more liable to stress and go to seed early. Seeing as how most veg are quite hardy if you are going to sow in trays then get them outside once they have good growth Lettuce, Beans, Celery, Onions that sort of thing. Of course Tomatoes, Peppers, Aubergines will need protecting still. I know its a pain but you could try moving some of the sensitive stuff outside for the day and if the weather forecast says no frost then maybe leave it out all night. I currently have trays of Peas, Onions, Kale, Cabbage, Celery, Celeriac, Marigolds, Antirrhinums and other annuals outside all the time hardening off and would only bring them in if there is going to be a frost. Definately keep on with the shading ( water based paints watered down are easier to clean off) and get a screen for the door and get it open

Pot Bellied Fool

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259 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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Doesn't look too happy does it. If the plants aren't drying right out then it's probably not too hot per se, looks more like too much direct scorching sun to me.

Use paint on the windows to provide some shade (look at old park greenhouses to see how common this used to be) or use something temporary to experiment with. This shading netting would do the trick.

freecar

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209 months

Wednesday 28th April 2010
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In a pinch net curtains will block out quite a bit of sunlight. They definitely look sun scorched as opposed to overheated. Overheated would normally show as limp spindly plants whereas your's seem to be burnt leaves which would suggest to me too strong sunlight.


ETA, whoever mentioned getting the plants out is right. This time of year a greenhouse should be used just to get small weak plants up to strength for the outside. Later in the year you can extend the season with one but not in spring. Use it to bring up seedlings and cuttings and get them outside as soon as they can.

Edited by freecar on Wednesday 28th April 11:28