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Just a thought but i wondered what the Ph readership though of the passing of the queen mom.
I've been down the pub tonight and we had a chat and we all thought top woman....
how many people do you know that gave 80 odd years to a sence of duty to the people that they served..
can you imagine Tony < im a **** twat face > blair actually having that kind of commitment...
just a thought
G
I've been down the pub tonight and we had a chat and we all thought top woman....
how many people do you know that gave 80 odd years to a sence of duty to the people that they served..
can you imagine Tony < im a **** twat face > blair actually having that kind of commitment...
just a thought
G
and the 24 X 7 tabloid scrutiney
how much do you value your privacy and the chance to bugger off down the pub
i do belive the Qm had a 4 million quid over draft and they had to borrow to buy buk house
where as TB pays jack shit to
up the country and live in no 10 and no 11 < no 10 wasnt big enough for his ego>
>> Edited by Graham on Thursday 4th April 02:05
how much do you value your privacy and the chance to bugger off down the pub
i do belive the Qm had a 4 million quid over draft and they had to borrow to buy buk house
where as TB pays jack shit to
up the country and live in no 10 and no 11 < no 10 wasnt big enough for his ego> >> Edited by Graham on Thursday 4th April 02:05
I will admit to being a fan of the Royal Family in general. The Queen Mother was a really excellent lady with a real sense of duty.
On the money side, all the household wages and other costs come out of the 'income', you have no privacy and are subject to tabloid coverage all the time, this compares with prison in my opinion albeit a gilded prison. Sounds like a raw deal.
I have also met Princess Anne, who is another top lady.
On the money side, all the household wages and other costs come out of the 'income', you have no privacy and are subject to tabloid coverage all the time, this compares with prison in my opinion albeit a gilded prison. Sounds like a raw deal.
I have also met Princess Anne, who is another top lady.
Nah...
Especially now the Queen Mother has gone, sack the lot of them.
If the yanks like them so much (Royalists reckon the family are so great for tourist etc) then ship off over there. In fact you think Americans would pay for them? Give them a liitle more (instant) 'history'?
"What would you pay for an heir to the thrown? Audition other members of the Royal family with no obligation to buy. Get a number of free servants and hangers on if you pay by credit card today. (this offer is not available in the shops)"
Cheers, Phil
Especially now the Queen Mother has gone, sack the lot of them.
If the yanks like them so much (Royalists reckon the family are so great for tourist etc) then ship off over there. In fact you think Americans would pay for them? Give them a liitle more (instant) 'history'?
"What would you pay for an heir to the thrown? Audition other members of the Royal family with no obligation to buy. Get a number of free servants and hangers on if you pay by credit card today. (this offer is not available in the shops)"
Cheers, Phil
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i do belive the Qm had a 4 million quid over draft and they had to borrow to buy buk house
She also has several "trust funds" set up worth
+- £90m she had the OD because all her assets were put in these trust funds a few years ago to beat the tax man hmmmm ,, the more i think of her the more i like her
Sack the lot of them! 
If you believe in democracy that is and don't want to be just an extra in a theme park for tourists, which is how Britain is perceived in the rest of the world. Let's bring our state apparatus up to date rather than be a place where heritage means stuff that happened hundreds of years ago but has little relevance to the 21st century.
Not that I've got an opinion or anything...
If you believe in democracy that is and don't want to be just an extra in a theme park for tourists, which is how Britain is perceived in the rest of the world. Let's bring our state apparatus up to date rather than be a place where heritage means stuff that happened hundreds of years ago but has little relevance to the 21st century.
Not that I've got an opinion or anything...
If you check your history Manek you'll find that once upon a time we did sack the lot of them, and chopped of their heads for good measure. But being the fun-loving lot we are we soon tired of Cromwell's puritanical, kill-joy government and reinstated Royalty a few years later. So BTDT.
Hopefully now Ma has died the Queen will step out the way and let Charlie-boy have a fair crack of the whip.
Hopefully now Ma has died the Queen will step out the way and let Charlie-boy have a fair crack of the whip.
Yertis, I have grave doubts about democracy too. But I don't have a better answer (when I was younger I thought I did but have since changed my mind). It's theleast worst system. As for state apparatus, I mean the state -- the machinery which consists of government (national and local), judiciary, and all the officially sanctioned systems that make the place work. Not meant to be sinister 
Well, I'm pretty uninterested by the Royal Family as a whole. I think that they're entitled to their life like anyone else - even those who were born into money - and they're pretty benign really. Though perhaps they should be kicked out and perhaps we should have a written constitution and an elected president, but I don't see any benefit in moving to a US style system. Or for that matter a French or German style system, which is the more likely, being as they are both former Monarchies, unlike the US which is formerly a very large beach. 
For me, the main problem with democracy today is people. Many of them are simpletons and numpties who are bamboozled by the stream of half-truths and lies peddled by the politicians, media and advertisers. They are therefore easily persuaded to acquiesce to whatever nonsense those in power decide to do.
By 'those in power', I'm not necessarily talking about politicians either - it seems that there is a creeping defacto coup d'etat taking place across the world and it's the multinational corporations who are gaining control over our lives. National borders are becoming less and less relevant and national governments less and less powerful in the face of supranational organisations such as WTO, IMF, World Bank, EU etc.
However, like others here, I cannot conceive of a better way forward than democracy - the alternatives are all unpalatable in some significant way. Unless I was in charge of course
But seriously, on my list of who would die this year, I've got 3 out of 10 already and I've got the Royal family to thank for two of those
For me, the main problem with democracy today is people. Many of them are simpletons and numpties who are bamboozled by the stream of half-truths and lies peddled by the politicians, media and advertisers. They are therefore easily persuaded to acquiesce to whatever nonsense those in power decide to do.
By 'those in power', I'm not necessarily talking about politicians either - it seems that there is a creeping defacto coup d'etat taking place across the world and it's the multinational corporations who are gaining control over our lives. National borders are becoming less and less relevant and national governments less and less powerful in the face of supranational organisations such as WTO, IMF, World Bank, EU etc.
However, like others here, I cannot conceive of a better way forward than democracy - the alternatives are all unpalatable in some significant way. Unless I was in charge of course
But seriously, on my list of who would die this year, I've got 3 out of 10 already and I've got the Royal family to thank for two of those
Our Royal family are a load of free loaders and parasites. The contribute nothing and I am sick of being a bloody subject. It is time we had a written constitution and were all citizens. My great aunt died the same day as the QM, she had about 10 times the QMs brains and really did sit out the blitz not, piss off every night to windsor. No fanfare no media coverage just a very bright and humorous old lady who lived her life and died like all of us will. So what was so special about the QM? Absolutely sod all. Almost anyone with half a brain could have done that job, probably better.
As for democracy well, there is probably room for a motorist revolutionary party
As for democracy well, there is probably room for a motorist revolutionary party
I just had a quick peep at the Magna Carta (on the basis that it's a sort of constitution/bill of rights) and saw Para. 30:
(30) No sheriff, royal official, or other person shall take horses or carts for transport from any free man, without his consent.
So presumably ALL the tow-away outfits and clamping-bandits are acting outside the law. Or has this one been repealed?
(30) No sheriff, royal official, or other person shall take horses or carts for transport from any free man, without his consent.
So presumably ALL the tow-away outfits and clamping-bandits are acting outside the law. Or has this one been repealed?
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