Fuji Real 3D W1
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Hello LensHeads,
Has anyone here experience with one of these ?
Search found nothing, but I would be surprised if the tech fans here had passed this product.
My Boss bought one a few weeks ago and I like the 3D pictures very much.
Since we run a visual stereo installation company, we have a wide choice of beamers
but even on a 24" (passive) stereo desktop monitor it is a great experience.
Okay, there are situations where the 3D effect gets lost (very close/very far away motives),
but as a "point & shoot" it is a quite usable camera.
I can´t wait to take it to Santa Pod for some pit shots (maybe even try the "Sport" modus at the startline),
of loooong Top Fuel Dragsters...
Has anyone here experience with one of these ?
Search found nothing, but I would be surprised if the tech fans here had passed this product.
My Boss bought one a few weeks ago and I like the 3D pictures very much.
Since we run a visual stereo installation company, we have a wide choice of beamers
but even on a 24" (passive) stereo desktop monitor it is a great experience.
Okay, there are situations where the 3D effect gets lost (very close/very far away motives),
but as a "point & shoot" it is a quite usable camera.
I can´t wait to take it to Santa Pod for some pit shots (maybe even try the "Sport" modus at the startline),
of loooong Top Fuel Dragsters...
None of that anaglyph sh*te with this camera, at least the way I am looking at the photos.
Stereo Photo Maker free download (part of stereo movie maker) just plays the two photos
that the W1 makes in 3D mode and I watch them on a proper 3D display.
There are several modes pre-set but so far all photos were taken with the "auto" option,
so no fumbling around, ready ca. 5 secs after sliding the front cover away from the lenses.
Why has the one camera mentiones been returned two times ?
I have read in one forum that the quality of the lenses/sensors was bad in the first examples
that arrived on the market, but when I look at the photos L & R separately in mono mode,
they seem just fine, too, for a point & shoot camera.
I was originally hoping to get user reviews & tips here before I borrow this thing off my boss.
Stereo Photo Maker free download (part of stereo movie maker) just plays the two photos
that the W1 makes in 3D mode and I watch them on a proper 3D display.
There are several modes pre-set but so far all photos were taken with the "auto" option,
so no fumbling around, ready ca. 5 secs after sliding the front cover away from the lenses.
Why has the one camera mentiones been returned two times ?
I have read in one forum that the quality of the lenses/sensors was bad in the first examples
that arrived on the market, but when I look at the photos L & R separately in mono mode,
they seem just fine, too, for a point & shoot camera.
I was originally hoping to get user reviews & tips here before I borrow this thing off my boss.
t, also do you plan on spending £300 on the frame or just look at them on the camera?I will not spend anything on a viewer, especially as the Fuji only has 400 x 600 pixels in 3D mode.
Autostereoscopic displays (without glasses) are still not good,
although the small one on the back of W1 gives a good impression how the pic looks like in 3D,
and/or if you did something very wrong and not getting the effect.
I built this thing myself :
1920 x 1200 native resolution, 24",
the second monitor that has the pic flipped and mirrored is mounted horzontally,
the glass pane is a half-mirror and the photos are viewed with passive linear polarized glasses
Autostereoscopic displays (without glasses) are still not good,
although the small one on the back of W1 gives a good impression how the pic looks like in 3D,
and/or if you did something very wrong and not getting the effect.
I built this thing myself :
1920 x 1200 native resolution, 24",
the second monitor that has the pic flipped and mirrored is mounted horzontally,
the glass pane is a half-mirror and the photos are viewed with passive linear polarized glasses
Edited by Benni on Thursday 15th April 18:10
Benni said:
I will not spend anything on a viewer, especially as the Fuji only has 400 x 600 pixels in 3D mode.
Autostereoscopic displays (without glasses) are still not good,
although the small one on the back of W1 gives a good impression how the pic looks like in 3D,
and/or if you did something very wrong and not getting the effect.
I built this thing myself :
1920 x 1200 native resolution, 24",
the second monitor that has the pic flipped and mirrored is mounted horzontally,
the glass pane is a half-mirror and the photos are viewed with passive linear polarized glasses
Now that is a thing of beauty!! Autostereoscopic displays (without glasses) are still not good,
although the small one on the back of W1 gives a good impression how the pic looks like in 3D,
and/or if you did something very wrong and not getting the effect.
I built this thing myself :
1920 x 1200 native resolution, 24",
the second monitor that has the pic flipped and mirrored is mounted horzontally,
the glass pane is a half-mirror and the photos are viewed with passive linear polarized glasses
Edited by Benni on Thursday 15th April 18:10
But seriously, what does it do? The 3d picture is displayed on the diagonal glass and you can see 3d without glasses?
Rottie : Thank You !
Not quite, both panels are linear polarized, but 90° different.
In the half-mirror, you see a) through to the vertical panel and b) the reflection of the horizontal panel.
Both panels and the mirror have to be aligned perfectly for the best effect, then the two pictures are congruent.
If you wear linear polarized glasses, each eye has a different angled lens which are also polarized 90° apart.
So one eye only sees the vertical panel, the other one the horizontal one,
both pictures vary slightly in perspective and the brain does the final computing into 3D as it usually does.
This is a compromise because I wanted high resolution and keep my head straight in front of the monitor.
If you tilt your head more than ~7° to the side, the channel separation gets diffused
and you see "ghost images" that you do not want.
This is "passive stereo" because the glasses are passive, just foils, and can therefore be bought cheap.
You need a graphic card with two outlets (or a special adapter) that puts out the two separate pictures in 60Hz.
The alternative (and surely the future of 3D displays) is "active stereo",
where the graphic card has one single 120Hz output and gives that to the single display or beamer,
which must be able to throw 120 frames per second.
These outputs are synchronized to an emitter that gives infrared signals to the "active" shutter glasses,
which have LCD screens that open & close 60 times a second so the left eye only sees the "left side" picture,
and the right eye only sees the "right side" picture.
Then you have perfect channel separation regardless of head positioning.
When I built this display there were no active monitors available with a resolution that high
and there are still none, but there will be in the near future.
In the old days there were some CRT tube monitors around that were capable of 120Hz,
but they are out of production and this is a desktop solution where only 1-3 people have to see 3D.
The display can also display 2D conventional pictures by lifting up the mirror until is is
held by strong magnets at the top.
All this "autostereoscopic" stuff (without glasses) is around for years but it always compromizes badly
in terms of resolution, channel separation, graphic card driver management etc etc.
With the rise of 3D in cinemas, the whole industry has got boost and new products will be available
for the high-end home cinema and, once these people have the proper displays / beamers,
self-made 3D photos & videos will be more popular, W1 does videos, too, but in smaller resolution.
O think it is a good first step, and a bold one from a mainstream manufacturer,
let´s see how this develops in the future.
Not quite, both panels are linear polarized, but 90° different.
In the half-mirror, you see a) through to the vertical panel and b) the reflection of the horizontal panel.
Both panels and the mirror have to be aligned perfectly for the best effect, then the two pictures are congruent.
If you wear linear polarized glasses, each eye has a different angled lens which are also polarized 90° apart.
So one eye only sees the vertical panel, the other one the horizontal one,
both pictures vary slightly in perspective and the brain does the final computing into 3D as it usually does.
This is a compromise because I wanted high resolution and keep my head straight in front of the monitor.
If you tilt your head more than ~7° to the side, the channel separation gets diffused
and you see "ghost images" that you do not want.
This is "passive stereo" because the glasses are passive, just foils, and can therefore be bought cheap.
You need a graphic card with two outlets (or a special adapter) that puts out the two separate pictures in 60Hz.
The alternative (and surely the future of 3D displays) is "active stereo",
where the graphic card has one single 120Hz output and gives that to the single display or beamer,
which must be able to throw 120 frames per second.
These outputs are synchronized to an emitter that gives infrared signals to the "active" shutter glasses,
which have LCD screens that open & close 60 times a second so the left eye only sees the "left side" picture,
and the right eye only sees the "right side" picture.
Then you have perfect channel separation regardless of head positioning.
When I built this display there were no active monitors available with a resolution that high
and there are still none, but there will be in the near future.
In the old days there were some CRT tube monitors around that were capable of 120Hz,
but they are out of production and this is a desktop solution where only 1-3 people have to see 3D.
The display can also display 2D conventional pictures by lifting up the mirror until is is
held by strong magnets at the top.
All this "autostereoscopic" stuff (without glasses) is around for years but it always compromizes badly
in terms of resolution, channel separation, graphic card driver management etc etc.
With the rise of 3D in cinemas, the whole industry has got boost and new products will be available
for the high-end home cinema and, once these people have the proper displays / beamers,
self-made 3D photos & videos will be more popular, W1 does videos, too, but in smaller resolution.
O think it is a good first step, and a bold one from a mainstream manufacturer,
let´s see
how this develops in the future.Gassing Station | Photography & Video | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff