Halfords 'lighter socket' jump lead
Halfords 'lighter socket' jump lead
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Nick P

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29,977 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Bought one of these jump leads that goes between car lighter sockets in case I ever get a flat battery on the Chimaera...has anyone had any experience of this type of jump lead? First appearances it seems to be quite good and cheaper than fancy leads or chargers....

ATG

23,632 posts

301 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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ehmm .... you might be able to charge the battery through the cigarette lighter, but jump starts are a non-starter (boom, boom). Cigarette lighter is only fused to 10 amps. Starter needs a lot more than that. Wouldn't be suprised if the cigarette lighter is switched off on some cars when the starter motor cranks to minimise the other potential drains.

Nick P

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29,977 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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perhaps i didnt word my first post very well....its not a jump lead as such..more of a charger...with a colour changing LED to tell you the health status of the battery...you then charge the battery for 5-10 mins and remove it to start

ATG

23,632 posts

301 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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ah, fair enough . Sounds like a good idea. It's surprising how quickly the battery charges up enough to crank the engine. Last time my battery was flat (completely and utterly flat too), I jump started it off an AA van, left the car idling for about 5-10 mins after which it had no problem starting on its battery alone. I assumed it was still pretty flat, so took it out for a spin to be on the safe side.

Pure guesswork, but lets say it charges through the cigarette lighter at 1 amp and needs 100 amps for 10 seconds to crank the engine and is 50% efficient, then you need to leave it charging for about 1/2 an hour. If it charged at 5 amps, then you'd be looking at about 6 minutes. No idea what the actual figures should be, but the order of magnitudes suggests it ought to work OK.

Marcos maniac

3,148 posts

290 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Ive got one of these gadgets floating around somewhere never actually used it though might just find it and keep it in the boot of the Chimp just in case

Nick P

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29,977 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Marcos maniac said:


Ive got one of these gadgets floating around somewhere never actually used it though might just find it and keep it in the boot of the Chimp just in case


I havent needed it yet, but got it to toat around in the boot 'in case'

v8tvr

792 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Used one on my Tamora last year when i had a flat battery, absolutely no good what so ever

T88CAN

3,474 posts

286 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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v8tvr said:
Used one on my Tamora last year when i had a flat battery, absolutely no good what so ever


Dito on my Chim last winter crap

iainsmith

170 posts

293 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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i've got one too!!!

seems like such a good idea but it doesn't work!

you can sit there for 1 hour and not get enough charge for a start! you may like to lift the lid of your bin and drop it in!!

If i could be arsed i'd take it back but the bin is much closer than Halfords!!

Also the fuse to the cig lighter blows if you try and start the TVR with it plugged in!

Derek Smith

49,620 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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They seem great, but what if you wanted a smoke while you're waiting for it to charge?

Nick P

Original Poster:

29,977 posts

280 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Derek Smith said:
They seem great, but what if you wanted a smoke while you're waiting for it to charge?


ok..ok..so i've wasted £15

looking on the positive side....I dont smoke

Toffer

1,528 posts

290 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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I have one floating around in the garage...they seem liek a great idea but in reality are useless.

I recall that it takes hours to get sufficient charge on a knackered battery to start the engine.

Best bet is jump start if you have to, but IMO you are best off replacing the battery and then using a float charger...leave it plugged in whenever you are not using the car. The differenec in teh way teh car drives when you first start it is amazing!

jonnyb

2,590 posts

281 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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I have a charger in the garage and use it whenever the chim is in there. Very good.

roobarb

197 posts

283 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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I was told by Austec that the ECU takes it timing directly from the coil, and the last thing you want to be doing is jump starting the car with a boost charger ( aka the AA ) You stand a very good chance of frying your ECU.
With regard to the fag top up device, it will at most trickle charge, so to trickle charge a fully flat 100Amp battery.....days ?? Good for 4 cylnder shopping trollies - no good for V8s if flat. However they should prevent a charged battery from going flat no matter the size of your lump.

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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What's going on here? The thing originally described is a battery monitoring/top up device - not a proper charger.

They work fine (within reason) to maintain the battery condition - but will never be able to charge up a flat battery. They're not even supposed to FFS!