Can you have 'L' plates without being a learner?

Can you have 'L' plates without being a learner?

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mikezs

Original Poster:

319 posts

180 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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After reading the 'could you be a driving instructor' thread someone mentioned their girlfriend is a driving instructor. They also said when the 'L' plates are on they car, they are treated completely different to normal.

I was wondering if it was legal (and moral?) to stick some L-plates on the car, just to see how people treat you.

Would you be comfortable driving with the plates on your car knowing people might tailgate you, overtake in dodgy places and do other dodgy things with prejudice towards you?

Benjybh

1,937 posts

186 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I guess it must be legal - after all, driving instructors drive around with L-plates on their cars whilst going to and from lessons. When I was learning, the plates used to be on the shopping car most of the time to save forgetting.

Cue my dad driving off with the dog on the passenger seat with the L-plates still adorning the car, my dog appearing to be teaching my dad how to drive. It made me chuckle.

Zeek

882 posts

211 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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The Highway Code said:
Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
[Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4]

OllieWinchester

5,681 posts

199 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I had L-plates on the MX5 when I was teaching the missus how to drive, and I didn't bother taking them off when she wasn't in the car so I suppose it must be legal.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Zeek said:
The Highway Code said:
Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
[Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4]
The good old HC "Must" vs "Should". "Must" means that it is a legal issue, anything that is "Should" is only advisory.

Andrew_M

1,111 posts

226 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Just get a 'P' plate on the back, this is more frightening to the average driver. biggrin

mikezs

Original Poster:

319 posts

180 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Mr Will said:
Zeek said:
The Highway Code said:
Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
[Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4]
The good old HC "Must" vs "Should". "Must" means that it is a legal issue, anything that is "Should" is only advisory.
Awesome, just grabbed a magnetic set from ebay for £2. Will post results biggrin

Mr Darcy

1,006 posts

179 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I ran around for a short while with the P plate on the back of GT3RS. Got a few strange looks I can tell you. Though I think its not illegal to do this unless of course your tonking up a motorway or something like that.

s3fella

10,524 posts

194 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Andrew_M said:
Just get a 'P' plate on the back, this is more frightening to the average driver. biggrin
Where can you get the "R", the "I", the "C".........laugh

Zeek

882 posts

211 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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mikezs said:
Mr Will said:
Zeek said:
The Highway Code said:
Vehicles. Any vehicle driven by a learner MUST display red L plates. In Wales, either red D plates, red L plates, or both, can be used. Plates MUST conform to legal specifications and MUST be clearly visible to others from in front of the vehicle and from behind. Plates should be removed or covered when not being driven by a learner (except on driving school vehicles).
[Law MV(DL)R reg 16 & sched 4]
The good old HC "Must" vs "Should". "Must" means that it is a legal issue, anything that is "Should" is only advisory.
Awesome, just grabbed a magnetic set from ebay for £2. Will post results biggrin
Watch everyone pull out in front of you because they are desperate not to get stuck behind the learnerbiggrin

inlovewithRWD

825 posts

179 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Andrew_M said:
Just get a 'P' plate on the back, this is more frightening to the average driver. biggrin
hehe

RB Will

9,940 posts

247 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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mikezs said:
Would you be comfortable driving with the plates on your car knowing people might tailgate you, overtake in dodgy places and do other dodgy things with prejudice towards you?
Surely this would only happen if you drove like a learner too? I'm sure people only do those things as the learners are driving slowly or badly.

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

197 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I've often considered a set of green ones for the back of the R1 then go steaming round the outside of someone on a bend with my knee down biggrin

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

186 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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RB Will said:
mikezs said:
Would you be comfortable driving with the plates on your car knowing people might tailgate you, overtake in dodgy places and do other dodgy things with prejudice towards you?
Surely this would only happen if you drove like a learner too? I'm sure people only do those things as the learners are driving slowly or badly.
Your faith in the human race is encouraging, but ultimately flawed, i feel.

Dam0ZR

88 posts

197 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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It was me that made the comment in the other thread, and the only reasons she had the board on top is because she was taking me somewhere while she was on the way to another lesson.

That kinda thing is ok, but if your taking a day off and driving about with it on then im not so sure that is. Her car hasnt got all the vinyls on either so it looks like any other car without the board on top.

Driving about with L plates, not sure really

Edited by Dam0ZR on Monday 15th March 15:44


Edited by Dam0ZR on Monday 15th March 15:45

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

181 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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s3fella said:
Where can you get the "R", the "I", the "C".........laugh
Haha rofl awesome!

eltax91

10,049 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Surely everbody will know you are not a learner as you are in the car alone? Else the BiB will pull you all the time thinking you are unaccompanied!

Time for a blow up doll for the pax seat. hehe

MarJay

2,174 posts

182 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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It is illegal unless you have a driving instructors certification (trainee or fully qualified).

I think the BiB would be very uncharitable to do you for it though, unless you give them some other reason to get upset of course!

mikezs

Original Poster:

319 posts

180 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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MarJay said:
It is illegal unless you have a driving instructors certification (trainee or fully qualified).

I think the BiB would be very uncharitable to do you for it though, unless you give them some other reason to get upset of course!
According to the highway code (quoted above) it's not confused

ShadownINja

77,494 posts

289 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Andrew_M said:
Just get a 'P' plate on the back, this is more frightening to the average driver. biggrin
I considered this. They see the "P" plate and see a foreigner at the wheel. They give me lots and lots of space. thumbup