Fuel Rail
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orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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The thing I think is my fuel rail is really manky, rusty and flaking. Its a metal structure under the plenum and seems to attach to the top of the injectors which hints at fuel rail but I've never seen one before. If this is what I think it is;

1. can this be removed without excessive danger and specialist tools

2. can it be shot blasted and powder coated

I know that I would have to ensure there was no debris inside before refitting and block it off so no powder got inside but other than that is it possible?

scratchchin

May also get the injectors cleaned whilst they are exposed if I can find somewhere to do it.

Thanks for filling in my knowledge hole, this place is great for that!

Tom

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Some engines (later/older ?)had a much nicer cast fuel rail . . . .



Fuel pressure valve is different, you'll need to change that also.

Injectors i had recond. by these guys - www.injectortune.co.uk

HTH Mike.

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Hmmm mine definitely doesn't look like that! I'll post a picture tomorrow when I go get the car.

The thing I'm thinking of definitely looks cast as it has a mould seam running round the edge so maybe the cast version. It is held between the plenum and engine block and looks like a tiny manifold although it's not easy to see as the plenum gets in the way.

I forgot there would be a fuel valve somewhere, is that a 'take out and put back in' part or a 'buy a new one' part? I've never messed around with a fuel system before so little nervous!

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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At work now, can do more pictures this evening if it helps ?

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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Sorry for the delayed reply, If you have any time tonight or tomorrow a couple more picture would be good. I'll stick some pictures of mine up tomorrow morning to see if they are the same. Currently going from memory so I could be completely wrong!

Is it an easy removal and is there much to paint? It's pretty hidden away but I don't want to leave it otherwise I'll never sort it.

Thanks for the injector link. If I get mine out I'll send them off to them. Its probably worth getting them done as they are 20 years and 65000 miles old.

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Having loked again they are really quite different, the alloy one is a complete sandwich plate between the manifold and the plenum with the reg valve held on by two bolts horizontally.

The steel (rusty) fuel rail currently on my car is held on my I'm not quite sure ? the reg valve is held on by two bolts vertically.

possibly to fit the alloy unit you'd need the whole "top end" of an engine, inlet manifold and plenum could be different ?

Shiney bits waiting to be fitted


current system


front of manifold supplying front two cylinders

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Ahh yeah thats what mine looks like. That last picture is very familiar except mine is rusted and all the paint is flaking off!

Any idea if it can be detached and powder coated or am I going to require a new top of my engine eek Don't think I'll go that far!

mep12345

2,061 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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have you tried asking about this on the Ford forums? I am sure some of the Sierra and Granada nuts will know about this

Mark

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Sunday 14th March 2010
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I hadn't thought of that Mark but I will do.

As far as I can tell I need to depressurise the fuel rail which I imagine I can do by running the car without a fuel pump (fuse out). Then remove the plenum and unbolt the fuel rail and its attachments. I have found nappies are very good at collecting spills so a few of them around to catch any wayward fuel and hey presto, one removed fuel rail.

Finally managed to take some pictures of mine today;







As you can see it needs a paint. I was thinking today that it probably gets seriously hot so powder coating might not cope with the temperature. Has anyone had their rocker covers powder coated? Wouldn't have thought they would get too much hotter.

May have to dig out the temperature probe for my multimeter and find out.

Russ35

2,704 posts

268 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Had my rocker covers powder coated this time last year. No problems as yet.

PompeyTim

167 posts

229 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I've got a spare cast fuel rail and associated pressure regulator taking up space in the garage. I've been meaning to get them to the tip so they're yours if you want them.... as long as you promise not to make any football jokes! wink

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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PompeyTim said:
I've got a spare cast fuel rail and associated pressure regulator taking up space in the garage. I've been meaning to get them to the tip so they're yours if you want them.... as long as you promise not to make any football jokes! wink
If you want to be rid I would be glad to take it off your hands, save you a trip to the dump biggrin

As for the football, after the Saints last performance I don't think I can make any jokes! boxedin

PompeyTim

167 posts

229 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Cool...

PM me & we can exchange contact details.

orange_dodo

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694 posts

218 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Cheers Tim,

YHM